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ESPN: Donatas Motiejunas won't report to Rockets cause of $6M difference

Discussion in 'Houston Rockets: Game Action & Roster Moves' started by Gorki, Dec 7, 2016.

  1. Sooner423

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    Amateurish is signing a contract without understanding the implications.
     
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    So let me get this straight.... you are insinuating that the Rockets conspired a "fake-trade" with Detroit knowing they would fail him, and this did this because..... they thought they could get a better deal in free agency??? Dude... you have completely lost it. Please stay away from Comet Pizza in DC while you're at it.
     
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  3. Deuce

    Deuce Context & Nuance

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  4. Surfguy

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    I did my damn research on my roofing contractors. BUT, they installed the cheapo whirlybirds with the high quality roof and now the damn whirlybirds are squeaking six years later because they are junk. And, now another damn contractor wants to come install new higher quality whirlybirds. I mean...this is BS.

    In summary, DMo is a whirlybird who is squeaking.
     
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  5. shastarocket

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    Just give back the $4m in likely incentives and call it even. Let's get this show on the road
     
  6. chenjy9

    chenjy9 Numbers Don't Lie
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    D-Mo hired this agent and continues to listen to him. BJ might have more blame, but D-Mo deserves a lot too. When you get screwed by the people you hire, you cut bait and make things right. Smart people get that and do that.
     
  7. Os Trigonum

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    Bad example. We've hired excellent contractors over the years and had things go wrong. Bad contractors don't even get that far sometime. Besides, the example was law-related re: house closing or financing. The layperson can't possibly know what's in all those papers and sometimes maybe even the lawyer doesn't. That's one reason why there's errors and omissions insurance.
     
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    You're calling Morey amateurish. He didn't understand the implications of striking the incentives.
     
  9. DaDakota

    DaDakota Balance wins
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    On this we agree. BJ should be fired.

    DD
     
  10. nobie

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    This is what happens when you hire fake-agent, if he actually hired real agent, he wouldnt be in this mess.
     
  11. DatRocketFan

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    D-mo should absolutely get some blame for hiring a shitty agent. I mean if owners can get sht on for hiring and putting faith in bad coaches, I don't see why D-mo shouldn't get sht on (owners hire coaches to lead the team and make them winners). He made his bed when he hired BJ armstrong to REPRESENT him, kinda his fault for putting faith in a bad agent. I wish D-Mo the best, but seriously when a person you hired is being this incompetent(make you lose money because lack complete knowledge of the CBA) would be wise to just fire him.
     
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  12. DreamShook

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    OK I agree with that. Still you find an agent that has gone toe to toe with the best. DMO knows Morey is a contract nerd. You don't go into a steak dinner with a spoon and A-1 sauce.
     
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  13. basketballholic

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    You're calling Morey amateurish. He didn't understand the implications of striking the incentives.
    No. Trade was real. Wasnt fake.
     
  14. MistaK

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    Well the Rockets were only required to match the principle terms which, according to all reports, they did...so technically they are honouring the contract. Dmo, or rather his agent, should have known that and they could have negotiated different terms with the Nets, to avoid this exact situation.
     
  15. Mav-Hater

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    Are DD and Holic ........? Well never mind. You would think DMO would be happy. I keep reading about a BJ from his agent. What's the big deal?
     
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  16. finsraider

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    DMo has the same rights as I do as an employee...he can show up and get paid, or not show up and not get paid.

    The difference is he has a binding contract to play professional basketball, and the NBA has it's own collective bargaining agreement, along with agreements with other basketball leagues around the world.

    For example, I have an agreement with my company that says I cannot take clients with me for a certain period of time after I leave, and cannot recruit other employees to join me at a different company. Pretty standard. That is a condition of employment.

    DMo's contract comes with conditions. If he chooses not to abide by them, then he is at the mercy of his employer. Everything in the CBA points to this, and it is something owners would NEVER surrender.

    The Rockets have complete control right now, and it is not their reputation on the line (see Jarrett Jack's tweet). You can bet the NBAPA would be all over this if the Rockets had done anything wrong...silence.
     
  17. heypartner

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    I'm willing to play, too.

    I admit that your angle is interested. Let me try to follow you.

    Is the seam you are mentioning based on speculation that DMo can pop into Houston at anytime and demand a physical to execute the contract, such that they can wait to put a lot of pressure on Morey the closer the March 1st waive date in the contract approaches. That would indeed put a lot of pressure on Morey to cancel the contract and let Utah move in, presumably.

    But, the one big, huge wrench in that theory is the CBA dictates that DMo only has until today to comply with the physical. After that, he's in breach of compliance rules. I don't think he can then demand to execute the contract at a more favorable time to him.

    Do you agree that if he must comply now, or Morey can just sit and do nothing (as Coon reports), then that "seam" has no power?
     
  18. TracywtFacy

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    What's BJ's track record / reputation as an agent like (before this DMo fiasco)?
     
  19. MrButtocks

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    Doing that opens up a whole new can of nasty worms, I think. If the cutoff date for the 17-18 guaranteed salary is negotiable under those conditions, then everything about the offer sheet is, including compensation and number of years. The team can't ask for something dependent on returning DMo to RFA. The Rockets' options were to either match or not match. The team and DMo shouldn't be able to mutually agree to tear up the old offer sheet and agree to a similar one.

    And if the Rockets could actually return DMo to RFA, in a wink-wink agreement to push the cutoff date to July, would they really trust him to not to run to Utah and seek out a bigger contract? Is there anything legally preventing him from reneging and talking to other teams?
     
  20. theodorant

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    Portland didn't match Batum's incentives when he was in RFA and signed an offer sheet with the wolves. Morey isn't doing anything non-standard here.
     
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