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Discussion in 'Houston Rockets: Game Action & Roster Moves' started by smoothie, Oct 19, 2003.

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  1. smoothie

    smoothie Jabari Jungle

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    name, in order, the players on the team that you think need to be traded from first to last.

    1. mooch
    2. moT
    3. meech
    4. e.griff
    5. cat
    6. boki
    7. jj
    8. cato
    9. steve
    10. a.griff
    11. pike
    12. yao
     
  2. fatman510

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    1. Eddie Griffin
    2. Maurice Taylor
    3. Cat Mobley
    4. Moochie
    5. Cat
    6. Meech
    7. Boki
    8. JJ
    9. A Griff
    10. Pike
    11. Steve
    12. Yao
     
  3. DavidS

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    1. MoT <---my least favorite to watch
    2. EG
    3. Mooch

    That's it. Keep the rest.

    MoT is a good bench player, but not a real starting PF. Can't rebound or offer any D.
     
  4. Rockets2K

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    When did we get two Cats?? ;)

    I cant believe you want to get rid of Mobley before Moochie..
    thats insane.. Mobley is waay more valuable to the Rockets than Moochie.

    if I had to make a list...

    the ones up for trade would be Meech....Mooch and Eggie..with Mo running a distant 4th unless the trade got us a better 4...which isnt real likely.
     
  5. fatman510

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    sorry meant to say cato on #5.....i like cato and want him to start at pf, but for what he is doing he gets too much money
    granted, if he starts at pf and has a good season, that will all change.
     
  6. Gutter Snipe

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    1. Maloney - are we still paying this fool?
    2. Meech - worst offensive player I have ever seen in the post. No moves and no explosion
    3. Mooch - he has shown me one quarter of good play so far - and has a year of bad play to make up for - not to mention a big contract.
    4. Eddie - WTF is a rookie scale contract even doing on this list? Oh yeah, he's a headcase. :eek: That cost us three draft picks. :mad:
     
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    I can't believe you want to keep 2 FA acquisitions in Pike and AG more than you'd keep Stevie.
     
  8. Just B

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    That's the first thing I noticed about the post. That's just insane if that's what he's really thinking.
     
  9. spaceboy

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    so you think stevie will be traded before pike or griffin?
     
  10. KALIKULI

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    Mooch, Ediie Griffin and Ameechi, those are the only guys that I think that would be spendable! I could'nt think off anybody else!!!
     
  11. Roxnostalgia

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    It's only a matter of time before somone says that Steve should be #1. Seems to be the way to think right now...
     
  12. Rockets2K

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    seems to be the way to think for idiots that know zero about basketball is what you should have put.

    Whether you like him or not, he is was too talented and seems to be buying into VG's way...so there would be zero reason to trade SF.
     
  13. Uprising

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    Stevie Franchise has been specatular the last 2 games.
    23 and 29pts.

    Him and Yao on our team just rocks!
     
  14. Roxnostalgia

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    You're right. I should have been more specific.
     
  15. SHANGHAi

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    Haven't really watched enough to decide who to dislike yet... however..

    1. Ameechi (that how you spell it?) He just sucks.
     
  16. Rockets2K

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    no...Jason Collier just sucks.

    atleast Amaechi is not afraid to initiate body contact in the paint and try to score...something that JC would not do.

    also, at one point in his career, Amaechi actually showed some skill...just becasue he didnt get much of a chance to show it in Utah doesnt mean he is worthless.

    lest we forget the night he spanked our big men? I dont remember the exact date..but I know that he went nuts against us in the past.

    dont get me wrong..I dont think he is that good...and I am not frankly thrilled we got him...but to say that he is worthless is simply incorrect.
     
  17. StupidMoniker

    StupidMoniker I lost a bet

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    1. Steve Francis - Especially right now while his value is high. Big contract plus flashy talent should net us big returns. Hello, Elton Brand.
    2. Kelvin Cato - One day Yao will play 40 minutes a night. You don't need to pay someone 7 million dollars to cover 8 minutes. As a pretty decent center, he should be able to land us a competent PG, like an Eric Snow type.
    3. Maurice Taylor - Now that you have gotten a good PF from the Steve trade, you don't need to pay Taylor 8 mil to sit on the bench.
    4. Bostjean Nachbar - This early preseason showing could be a godsend. Players on rookie scale contracts are easily traded, maybe snag a first rounder for him.

    I do not think anyone below this point should be traded because there is little to no chance of getting back better than you are sending out, so the rest are just in the order of how much we need to keep them, getting more important as you go down.

    5. Moochie Norris - The big contract was a mistake. He was another in a long line of CBA PGs that Rudy adopted. Tierre Brown or Tito Maddox could fill his spot just as well.
    6. John Amechi - Mediocre back-up center with corresponding contract. Trading him would only be for salary matching purposes 'cause he isn't going to fetch anything good by himself.
    7-9. Piatkowski, Jim Jackson, AGriffin - Going left to right defense improves and shooting declines. All three of them are serviceable swingmen. The collection is pretty good to platoon, starting Jimmy Jack and bringing in the others when their specialty is needed.
    10. Eddie Griffin - You aren't going to get anything for him right now. We should keep him around and continue trying to develop him, because his potential is more valuable than anything we could resonably hope to get in return.
    11. Cuttino Mobley - Scores and plays defense. The two most important attributes in any player. He also comes on the cheap. Too much is made of his shot selection and lack of passing, much of it not supported by watching the games.
    12. Yao Ming - You do not trade a 7'5" player who can shoot, pass, rebound, block shots, and is on a rookie scale contract. Unless Greg Popovich is calling, you don't even listen to offers for this guy.
     
  18. keep_rudy

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    Excellent analysis, though a little wield at the first glance. Anyway I like your idea. Now the next question: what kinda line up you expect after the above trades done (e.g., Steve for Brand, etc.)?
     
  19. theguent

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    I don't quite understand the fixation that everyone here seems to have with trades. It seems like there are 10 new trade threads every day, most of which are ridiculous. I'm still waiting for someone to post the "Moochie Norris for Dirk Nowitski idea". Ya'll make it seem as if there are teams willing to jump at the chance to grab our overpaid garbage, and that working out the details is just that easy.

    There are only a few players on this team that should even merrit trade discussion
    1 & 2)Moochie and MoT, only because they really stink and they get paid a gunk load of money to do so. But let face it, we can't move them. No how, no way. No GM in their right mind would be willing to take them when they can get some CBA no-name to do just as good.
    3)Eddie G- Only because it seems like he just doesn't have any brain in his skull. That, and I still feel so burned about that draft-day trade. But, because of his most recent discression, his trade value right now is virtually nill. So we're actually better off keeping him. Plus, I am curious to see how he responds to this. Maybe he'll finally wake up and show some heart. I won't keep my hopes to high on that one though.
    END OF LIST
    John Amechi- granted he's a big stiff. But that's why we want him. We don't need him running the break or busting tre's out there. He just needs to give Yao a breather 8-10 min/game, play physical, and not do any damage. If he so chooses to score points or make defensive plays, well that's just gravy.
    Cato- I like this guy. He's really grown on me in the last year and a half. He's not a very skilled player, but he hustles and plays great D, and is not affraid to get physical in the post. And people seem to knock his contract, but ahem, have you guys seen how much other centers around the league are making? Big men in the NBA are a rare commodity, so one with any sort of talent to offer comes at a premium. The average backup NBA last year made almost 6 million/year. I would imagine this years number to be similar. So Cato making 7 million is not that bad after all, especially since he seems to be fitting in nicely to JVG's system and may even end up a starter.
    Nachbar- I'm not sold on this guy more than the rest of you, but he is still young and has way too much upside to consider trading. Plus, he seems to have earned the confidence of his teammates and coaches in his ability, so I think it may just be a matter of him getting more comfortable playing at this level and believing in himself. There's more to this kid than we've seen so far.
    Everyone else on the roster either has too much talent to trade (Steve, Yao, Cat), or are the newly acquired role-players which we should only be so thankful to have (Pike, JJ, A.Griif).
     
  20. ArtV

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    1. mooch
    2. e.griff
    3. boki
    4. meech
    5. a.griff
    6. jj
    7. cat
    8. pike
    9. moT
    10. cato
    11. steve
    12. yao
     

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