But these are no isolated incidents. You can not drive if you are woman in Saudi. You can not go anywhere without male relatives in Saudi. If you're a woman committing adultery, you get executed. If you're a man, you get a slap on the peepee....don't do it again.... There is no freedom of the press, freedom of religion at all. And as for the Christian God being the same as Allah......no way. Christianity is based on love, love of your fellow man and love of your God. Islam is based on submission and subjugation. Allah, as depicted in the Koran, is vengeful, wrathful, and downright nasty. They have all these rules that govern their every action, including what foot to step into the bathroom with (left)! You're not going to tell me that a "god" who would concoct such a bloody and perverse religion of torture, ignorance and slavery is not evil? And what does someone teaching a dog the Hitler salute have to do with Islam?
Cool Chick etc.. I choose to live in an enlightened world that is in the 21st century. Governed by a set of common decency and a belief that all MEN & WOMEN are created equal. If you guys choose to wallow in some misbegotten religion that was written by a questionable character like the pedophile Mohammed.....go ahead. Just realize that you will have zero credibility with the CIVILIZED world. DD
Saudi Arabia has a population of close to 20 million (not counting foreign nationals). Brunei, Qatar & Bahrain have a combined population of under 2 million and that is probably counting foreign nationals. His example covers a larger sample size than yours, yet you said his was <i>unfair</i> and <i>extremist</i>?
So, your are saying they are treated just like men ? Are they allowed the same freedoms as men ? What about education ?
Bamaslammer, Every religion can be interpreted in different ways. The Saudi's interpret it in the form of Wahabbism, with a puritanical version of God. There are many, many violent passages in the Old and New testament and it all depends on perspective. I read the Bible and the Quran and the actions of both can be seen in many different ways. For you to use such language as "cult" and to demonize a religion based on the actions of its followers is silly and ignorant. I believe if you look at the deaths caused by Christians versus Muslims over the last Hundred years, i'm sure the body count of Christianity would dwarf that of Islam. Does this mean that Christianity is more violent?? By your evidence, yes. But I don't believe that viewing man's interpretation of religion will ever get you any success in understanding that religion because man always has his own inherant interests. You want to talk about manipulation of religion for the good of a people. Why don't you research why Priests are celibate, and then relate that to all the Land owned by the Church? I believe religion in itself is there to bring order to those who need that leash in their lives, but your comments that Christianity is Love while Islam is some perversion are idiotic.
I couldn't have said it better myself. Let's see here, you can either be part of: 1.) Ignorance and blind goosestepping to the words of a pedophiliac barbarian called Muhammed who supposedly recieved divine revelation 2. Or be part of the modern, 21st century world where religion is a personal, not a governmental matter. And as for those who say Christianity is not love, what did Jesus say the first commandment was? To love. And as for those who whine that "ooooh Christianity has a higher body count than Islam....well, in the New Testament, Jesus does not advocate violence, in fact, he allows himself to be taken away, horribly crucified and even heals a Roman soldier whose ear was cleaved by one of his disciple's swords! In the Koran, violence against "unbelievers" is everywhere, in fact, it is encouraged and supposedly rewarded. Christ's last words on Earth were "Forgive them Father, for they know not what they do." If the Muslim world wants to join the 21st century, they must remove religion from their governments.
. yes WOMEN are allowed an education, there are universities in KSA(albeit not coed) they do get education. my cousin is in Saudi and she is gettting her engineering in SAUDI. allright i do disagree on the women not driving thing, but in many other arab countries it is allowed( bahrain, UAE, Jordan, Egypt) women are allowed to go shoppping alone if they want to. my mom does the shoppin and goes to malls, etc whenever she pleases to go. drinking alcohol isnt a great thing, it is the cause of 50% of car accidents. im glad its banned over there, it was banned here once too. and yes islam is againts pre marital sex as it causes many pains, and illegitamate children, and STD's etc etc. come on im sure you learned all this in 5th grade. isnt this the one thing that US gov. has been trying to preach, "practice abstinance" and when a country does something about it YOU FROWN upon it. tsk tsk tsk. it should be applauded for getting rid of alcohol and STD's and all the other pains.
adeel, Women in Taliban Afghanistan Though the Taliban have been driven out of power in Afghanistan much of the laws and traditions they enforced still remain in place. Mercifully the situation is changing but slowly. . . Since theTaliban took power in 1996 women have had to wear a tentlike garment called a burqua. They have been beaten and stoned in public for not having the proper attire, even if this means simply not having the mesh covering in front of their eyes. One woman was beaten to death by an angry mob of fundamentalists for accidentally exposing her arm while she was driving which she was also forbidden to do. Another was stoned to death for trying to leave the country with a man that was not a relative. Women were not allowed to work or even go out in public without a male relative; professional women such as professors, translators, doctors, lawyers, artists and writers were forced from their jobs and restricted to their homes. Homes where a woman is present must have their windows painted so that she can never be seen by outsiders. They must wear silent shoes so that they are never heard. Women live in fear of their lives for the slightest misbehavior. Because they cannot work, those without male relatives or husbands are either starving to death or begging in the street, even if they hold Ph.D.'s. Depression is becoming so widespread that it has reached emergency levels. There is no way in such an extreme Islamic society to know the suicide rate with certainty, but relief workers are estimating that the suicide rate among women must be extraordinarily high: those who cannot find proper medication and treatment for severe depression and would rather take their lives than live in such conditions. At one of the rare hospitals for women, a reporter found still, nearly lifeless bodies lying motionless on top of beds, wrapped in their burqua, unwilling to speak, eat, or do anything, but slowly wasting away. Others have gone mad and were seen crouched in corners, perpetually rocking or crying, most of them in fear. It is at the point where the term "human rights violations" has become an understatement. Husbands have the power of life and death over their women relatives, especially their wives, but an angry mob has just as much right to stone or beat a woman, often to death, for exposing an inch of flesh or offending them in the slightest way. Women in Bahrain In Bahrain, a male doctor may legally examine a woman's genitals but is prohibited from looking directly at them during the examination. He may only see their reflection in a mirror. Women in Bangladesh Over 2000 women a year are victims of fatal or disfiguring acid attacks for alleged improper behaviour. (The World and I, May 2003) A rapist can sometimes marry the woman he has assaulted and avoid prosecution. This saves the family's "honor" and the woman's life. The result is that the assailant is now effectively allowed to rape his victim repeatedly, with the blessing of the court system. Women in Egypt A woman cannot leave the country without her husband's permission. FGM (Female Circumcision or Female Genital Mutilation) is widespread in Egypt. "Honor Killing" is still practiced in rural areas and even in the main city of Cairo.. Wife beating is so prevalent that most housewives see it as a normal part of marriage. Social workers spend much of their time just trying to convince victims that their husband's violent acts are unnacceptable. Women in the Islamic Republic of Iran The legal age for marriage of a girl is 9 years old. Iran's penal code specifies, "The stoning of an adulterer or adulteress shall be carried out while each is placed in a hole and covered with soil, he up to his waist and she up to a line above her breasts". Court appointed officials or ordinary citizens then pelt the accused with stones large enough to cause pain but not large enough to kill immediately. In the Islamic penal code called Sharia the burden to prove guilt in a man is much more than with a woman. Thus women are punished more by their "transgressions" than men. Two women were stoned to death in Iran in 2001, one for adultery and the other for appearing in a pornographic movie. Cited in TIME Europe; Sept 2, 2002, p. 26-7 Women in Jordan Article 340 of the Jordanian Penal Code states, "He who discovers his wife or one of his female relatives has commited adultery and kills, wounds, or injures one or both of them, is exempted from any penalty." In December 2001 Articles 97 and 98 allow for a reduced sentence for crimes committed in a "fit of fury" related to the perceived loss of honor. Approximately 75% of such "honor" killings are committed by the brother of the victim. The average sentence for the murder is about 6 months. Attempts by International Human Rights groups to cancel or modify this law are charactarised as attempts to erode Arab morals and destroy families. 62% of Jordanians oppose amending this article. At least 50 women a year are imprisoned in Jordan on "honor" related cases. Most will be killed by their family if they are released. "Once imprisoned a woman can only be released to a male relative who must agree not to murder them. Regarless of assurances women are often murdered within hours after their discharge. In one particularly grisly incident, Fayaz Mohammed secured the release of his seventeen-year old daughter, Lamis, from a Jordanian Detention center. He guaranteed her safety and then slit her throat once she was released in his care. Fayaz was sentenced to nine months in prison for his crime. (The World and I, May 2003, p. 184-9) Women in Kashmir A woman who leaves the house with her face uncovered runs the risk of having acid thrown in her face. A woman's virginity is considered the family's responsibility, especially the male members who will dominate her for her entire life, first her father, then her brothers, then her husband and finally her sons. Women in Palestine Women are not allowed to travel alone. They are required to have a male relative accompany them if they leave the house. Unfortunately, her male "guardian" - father, brother, uncle or cousin - may also be her rapist. Should she become pregnant, he will publicly condemn for dishonoring the family and then kill her and the unborn child. In 2002, 17-year old Afaf Younes was killed by her father, who had allegedly been sexually molesting her. Afaf had tried to escape his sexual abuse by running away, but she was caught and returned to her father. He then shot her in the name of honor. (The World and I, May 2003, p. 191) Among Palestinians, all sexual encounters, including rape and incest are blamed on the woman. Men are presumed innocent; the women must have tempted him into raping her or enticed him into having an affair. Even if a woman survives a violent rape, she is condemned for her "mistake" and may be killed by her family. (The World and I, May 2003, p. 188) If a woman brings shame to her family, her male relatives are bound by duty and culture to kill her. "A woman shamed is like rotting flesh," according to one Palestinian merchant. "If it is not cut away, it will consume the body. What I mean is that the whole family will be tainted if she is not killed." Women in Pakistan In law, the testimony of one man is equal to that of two women For a woman to prove rape, four adult males of "impeccable" character must witness the penetration according to the local interpretation of Shari'a or Islamic Law. As a result very, very few men are charged with rape. However, according to a CNN report in August 2002, 60% of women are charged with adultery in Pakistan if they are raped. The punishment for their "crime" is that the women are jailed or are forced to marry their rapist. Women in Saudi Arabia Women are not allowed to drive automobiles or fly anywhere without the permission of their husband or senior male relative. Women can only work in complete segregation from men. "Honor killings" are widespread. A male relative can kill his female relative for such "offenses" as, allegations of premarital or extramarital sex, refusing an arranged marriage, attempting to obtain a divorce, or simply talking with a man. Women in the Sudan "Honor killings" widespread in the Muslim areas of Northern Sudan.
i shall post one of macbeths quotes. you are taking individual events that were blasted by the media and spreading them as the norm. many people who do that should and must be locked up or killed. "Women in Kashmir A woman who leaves the house with her face uncovered runs the risk of having acid thrown in her face. " you ever been there, i have and i personally have seeen many tourists out htere with their face uncovered and guess what they come home without the acid all in her face ""Honor killings" are widespread. A male relative can kill his female relative for such "offenses" as, allegations of premarital or extramarital sex, refusing an arranged marriage, attempting to obtain a divorce, or simply talking with a man." what are you talkin about where did you get this info. ISLAM gaurantees the right of refusal to any man she does not wish to marry. KILLING is not allowed, so if a dad kills a daughter etc. he would probably be punished. Yes although if a women/or man has committed adultery then both will be punished, and unfortunately the punishment is stoning to death. "Husbands have the power of life and death over their women relatives, especially their wives, but an angry mob has just as much right to stone or beat a woman, often to death, for exposing an inch of flesh or offending them in the slightest way." angry mobs here put cities on fire when their fav. sports teams win or lose. who can stop angry mobs. and again i would probably say it was a most probably a prostitute who was dishonoring herself, and then maybe... maybe some people who found out went out after the person. NO MAN has the right to decide the fate of their wives life and/ or death. ISLAM is strictly agains one of the hindu traditions of a women burning herself to death during the cremation of the husband, ISLAM says that a woman may marry again after her husbands death. "Women in Egypt A woman cannot leave the country without her husband's permission. FGM (Female Circumcision or Female Genital Mutilation) is widespread in Egypt" another thing that is strictly forbidden by ISLAM, i will bet you anything this is not a religious practice but more of a cultural thing that has mixed into the area and is now being passed off as religon. "Since theTaliban took power in 1996 women have had to wear a tentlike garment called a burqua. They have been beaten and stoned in public for not having the proper attire, even if this means simply not having the mesh covering in front of their eyes. " I was one of the people who was strictly agains the taliban, but u do realize that many women wear a burqa because they like to, and not because they are told to. in many cases they go buy exquisite burqa's that cost over $1000, many times women like to go do that, and they feel secure in a burqa. " Regarless of assurances women are often murdered within hours after their discharge. In one particularly grisly incident, Fayaz Mohammed secured the release of his seventeen-year old daughter, Lamis, from a Jordanian Detention center. He guaranteed her safety and then slit her throat once she was released in his care. Fayaz was sentenced to nine months in prison for his crime. " the man was punished for his crime albeit he probably payed off some judge, but he did serve time. and it happens everywhere. come on OJ simpson is still a free man "Women in Saudi Arabia Women can only work in complete segregation from men. " think of it as men can only work in complete segregation from women.
Christ never commented on Islam; Islam commented on CHrist, but not the reverse. I don't get your comment. You were responding to somone saying that adopting the position that Christianity= love while Islam=perversion, right? I don't get it.
at the time it made sense to me!! but looking back, i don't remember what i meant by that....i know full well that Islam was founded well after the resurrection of Christ, so that wasn't my angle. i left work early yesterday to nap...if that's of any help to you. i can tell you i certainly didn't mean to imply that Christ was commenting on Islam, though.
Whats between the brackets is originaly posted by the “barbarian bamaliar” (You can not drive if you are woman in Saudi. You can not go anywhere without male relatives in Saudi.) true .. but it is against ISLAM ( If you're a woman committing adultery you get executed. If you're a man, you get a slap on the peepee....don't do it again....) both of them get executed. (There is no freedom of the press, freedom of religion at all ) I will tell u about Kuwait , we have freedom of press and religion , we even have churches and a temple 4 “seihk” I dunno what u call these pple , KUWAIT IS AN ISLAMIC COUNTRY , WE ALL KNOW THAT . (They have all these rules that govern their every action, including what foot to step into the bathroom with (left)! ) its NOT duty , NOBODY have to do that , its up to the person … I don’t do that andi wont get punished 4 it in the judgment day.. anyway its with right not left . ( Christianity is based on love, love of your fellow man and love of your God. ) I read that the bible says… that if somebody is working on a Sunday its my duty to kill him. Or if i a man is fantasizing about having sex with a woman that isnt his he should stick his eyes out. If the 1st thing is true , that somebody should get killed if hes working on Sunday , is that love ? ( WITH RESPECT FOLKS ) NOTE : THE REASON THAT WOMEN ARE TREATED SO BADLY IN SAUDI , IS BECAUSE OF THE BAD “WAHABISH” PPLE , NOT ISLAM (Allah, as depicted in the Koran, is vengeful, wrathful, and downright nasty ) I THINK I know the meaning of vengeful , and as I understand it I will say : no , he just will punish pple who disobey him hard , I don’t know the meaning of wrathful , but downright nasty .. WHY DOESN’T HE GIVE US THE VERSE ? (In the Koran, violence against "unbelievers" is everywhere ) AL-HUJURAT , verse 13 [13] O mankind! We created you from a single (pair) of a male and a female, AND MADE YOU INTO NATIONS AND TRIBES , THAT YE MAY KNOW EACH OTHER (NOT THAT YE MAY DESPISE EACH OTHER). Verily the most honoured of you in the sight of Allah is (he who is) the most righteous of you. And Allah has full Knowledge and is well-acquainted (with all things). -Why doesn’t he show us he verses he is talking about ? (Jesus does not advocate violence, in fact, he allows himself to be taken away, horribly crucified and even heals a Roman soldier whose ear was cleaved by one of his disciple's swords ) blessings of god be upon jisus … in fact , prophet muhamed ( blessings of god be upon him and his folks ) , allows himself to be horribly beaten by pple , they threw stones and rocks on him , they even threw ( tummies – perhaps that’s the word ) of ( sheets – perhaps that’s the name of the animal ) , they even put ( the sharp things of trees - I dunno what they are called in English ) , and lemi tell u this story about the great prophet ( blessings of god be upon him and his folks ) , there was a JEWISH guy who used to hurt him a lot , but the prophet didn’t do him anything , in fact when that guy became sick , he VISITED him . AL-Insan [7] They perform (their) vows, and they fear a Day whose evil flies far and wide [8] And they feed, for the love of Allah, the indigent, the orphan, and the captive, [9] (Saying), "We feed you for the sake of Allah alone: no reward do we desire from you, nor thanks. [10] "We only fear a Day, of distressful Wrath from the side of our Lord." [11] But Allah will deliver them from the evil of that Day, and will shed over them a Light of Beauty and a (blissful) Joy. [12] And because they were patient and constant, He will reward them with a Garden and (garments of) silk. -These holy verses are about the GREAT BLESSED daughter of the prophet “fatima alzahraa” and her GREAT husband “who also was raised by the great prophet muhamed , “ali” he is also the prohpet’s cousin , and their GREAT BLESSED sons “ alhassan” and “alhussain” , blessings of god be upon them , when an indegint came to their house askin for food , they only had ( a vegtible – I dunno its name in English ) and water ONLY for this day , but they gave this vegie to him , so in that day THEY ONLY DRANK WATER , and the day after , an orphan came and the same thing happened , the day after a captive came , and they did the same , that’s why these holly verses revealed . IN THREE DAYS THEY ONLY HAD WATER . NOTE : THEY ARE NOT POOR PPLE , BUT THEY GIVE OTHERS A LOT . other examples 1: the GREAT BLESSED imam “ALI” ( blessings of god be upon him and his folks ) , whenever he buys meet , he gives it to any poor , and he eats bread instead with salt and vinegar . 2; a poor guy came and the great prophet’s daughter , ( blessings of god be upon them and their folks )didn’t have food at the time , so she gave him her pearl necklace and a leather . (If the Muslim world wants to join the 21st century, they must remove religion from their governments ) if bama wants to understand that they ( muslim leaders ) don’t follow every Islamic rule and that what made them like what they are today , he should get his hatred and despite out of himself , and think well , and understand that a religion can not be known because of some extremists actions ,is that hard to understand .. no . anyway .. take me as an example , I have my own Mercedes , my mum has her own bmw , we get out without male relatives , I have MORE than 50 watches , I have my own room that is 7 meters (…. dunno what is it in English )and 8 meters ( …. ) , my bathroom is 4 meters (…) and 4 meters (..) , I have my own dvd and tv and stereo , I even have a satellite with OVER than 1000 channels ( cnn , bbc , nbc , msnbc , aljazeera , alarabiya ( the second news channel its my fav 1 ) , mtv Europe , mtv India and more than 10 music channels like viva , magic , 123 sat , deejay tv , and more , and Arabic music channels also , my dad’s income is like 2500 kuwaiti dinars = like 9000 american dollars ( if not mistaken ) he is a teacher in kuwait’s university , my mum WORKS , shes a teacher , her income is like 700 dinars , AND MY DAD NEVER TOUCHED MY MUM’S MONEY , CUZ IN ISLAM’S VIEW , THE WOMAN’S MONEY IS HERS ONLY , UNLESS SHE GIVES IT TO SOMEONE BY HER OWN , NOT FORCIBLY , AND HES DECENT ENOUGH NOT TO TAKE IT, and my DAD IS AN EXTREMIST RELIGIOUS MUSLIM , and HE SPOILES US ( my mum and I and my brothers ) , and believe it or not … my mum and I traveled to HOUSTON , Colorado and l.a ( I was 9 then ) and iran ( last year ) … ( ALONE ) , and guess who took care of my lil brothers … DAD , cuz ISLAM ORDERED MEN to HELP their WIVES .. I guess its enough about my life … oops I forgot to mention that I have my own maid … folks … please just remind ( bama ) that im a MUSLIM GIRL WHO’S PARENTS FOLLOW ISLAM’S TEACHINGS . (6. drinking alcohol ) perhaps he wanna get drunk rape a girl ? is that cool ? no … or he wanna lose control and kill ? is that ok ? ..no (I pray to my God that Muslims are not correct about things, because if they are, I would really hate Allah. He is a demented, perverse bully of a deity who sees humanity as nothing more than slaves. I mean, for chrissakes, the very name Islam means submission, as in submission to God! ) I pray to ALLAH THE GREATEST that someone replies to me about the sex things I say they are right and prove its wrong . for THE MOST MERCIFUL ALLAH “sake “ I pray that ( bama and some other members here) get out of thier COWERDNESS bubble and reply to me … PROVING OTHERWISE ---------- Originally posted by Dakota…. ( I choose to live in an enlightened world that is in the 21st century. Governed by a set of common decency and a belief that all MEN & WOMEN are created equal.) I will search the web for the sayings of the THE GREAT PROPHET MUHAMED AND HIS BLESSED FOLKS ( BLESSINGS OF GOD BE UPON THEM ) , in English to show you that if a man hurts , annoyes or disrespect a woman with no right HE WILL GET PUNISHED SO HARD (If you guys choose to wallow in some misbegotten religion that was written by a questionable character like the ******** Mohammed.....go ahead.) he is questionable for some idiots like u and bama who just DON’T KNOW how to reply to me . ( Just realize that you will have zero credibility with the CIVILIZED world.) What civilized world you’re talking about ?!?! the 1 filled with raped females ?!?! or the 1 filled with killed pple ?!?! or the 1 filled with murderers and kidnappers ?!?!? or the 1 filled with poor and starving pple ?!?! Well … like I said LEARN from the GREAT PROPHET AND HIS FOLKS .. cuz believe me .. THERE IS NOTHING BETTER THAN HELPING YOURSELF AND OTHERS , if your pathetic idiot evil moronic mind couldn’t get this … read my posts about THE GREAT ISLAM AND THE GREAT PROPHET AND HIS FOLKS ( WHICH NIETHER YOU NOR OTHER COWARDS COULD REPLY TO ) …got it . good
ISLAM is GREAT RELIGION of… 1- love and respect and decency -you should treat your parents good . AL-Esraa 17 [23] Thy Lord hath decreed that ye worship none but Him, and that ye be kind to parents. Whether one or both of them attain old age in thy life, say not to them a word of contempt, nor repel them, but address them in terms of honour. [24] And, out of kindness, lower to them the wing of humility, and say: “My Lord! Bestow on them thy Mercy even as they cherished me in childhood.” AL-Hujurat ( 11 , 12 , 13 ) -How should treat each other [11] O ye who believe! let not some men among you laugh at others: it may be that the (latter) are better than the (former): nor let some women laugh at others: it may be that the (latter) are better than the (former): nor defame nor be sarcastic to each other, nor call each other by (offensive) nicknames: ill-seeming is a name connoting wickedness, (to be used of one) after he has believed: and those who do not desist are (indeed) doing wrong. [12] O ye who believe! avoid suspicion as much (as possible): for suspicion in some cases is a sin: and spy not on each other, nor speak ill of each other behind their backs. Would any of you like to eat the flesh of his dead brother? Nay, ye would abhor it. But fear Allah: for Allah is Oft-Returning, Most-Merciful ñ [13] O mankind! We created you from a single (pair) of a male and a female, and made you into nations and tribes, that ye may know each other (NOT THAT YE MAY DESPISE EACH OTHER). Verily the most honoured of you in the sight of Allah is (he who is) the most righteous of you. And Allah has full Knowledge and is well-acquainted (with all things). AL-Maidah ( 2 ) …Help ye one another in righteousness and piety, but help ye not one another in sin and rancour: fear Allah: for Allah is strict in punishment 2- science and logic alhijr ( verse 22 ) And We send the FECUNDATING WINDS, then cause the rain to descend from the sky, therewith providing you with water (in abundance), though ye are not the guardians of its stores. -The science found that out like 100 years ago ( I dunno when it was discovered exactly that’s y I said ( like 100 ) Alnoor ( verse 40 ) Or (the Unbelievers' state) is like the depths of darkness in a vast DEEP OCEAN , OVERWHELMED WITH BILLOW AND BILLOW topped by (dark) clouds: depths of darkness, one above another: if a man stretches out his hand, he can hardly see it! For any to whom Allah giveth not light, there is no light! -OF COURSE science didn’t know this 1400 yrs ago not even 1000 yrs ago , who did know about this BACK THEN … ONLY MUSLIMS KNEW THAT THERE R 2 WAVES IN THE SEA Alnahl ( verses 68 – 69 ) [68] And thy Lord taught the Bee to build its cells in hills , on trees, and in (men's) habitations; [69] Then to eat of all the produce (of the earth), and find with skill the spacious paths of its Lord: THERE ISSUES FROM THEIR BODIES A DRINK OF VARYING COLOURS , WHEREIN IS HEALING FOR MEN : verily in this is a Sign for those who give thought - THESE ARE NOT MENTIONED IN THE BIBLE , AND IM SURE ABOUT THAT ( WITH RESPECT )
Im sorry brother , I don’t mean 2 disrespect you , its just I don’t agree with you How come its unfortunately that they get stoned ? How many millions of innocent girls get raped each and everyday by ba$tards ? How many innocent millions of pple get killed daily by these ba$tards ? How many millions of precious pple lost because of these ba$tards ? How many millions of precious things pple lost because of these ba$tards ? Who’s responsible 4 these rapes , killings , robs and kidnaps ? Me or these pple who got hurt or the 1’s who JUST care about themselves and their 10 MINUTES LUST without caring about others’ safety ? Is it ok for these pple 2 die or suffer ? and its not ok 4 the one’s who are responsible for this ? not to mention its FORBIDDEN by ( ALLAH – GOD ) , I mean in both ISLAM and CHRISTIANITY . These questions 4 everyone here in this forum .
in not saying that the fact that they are punished is wrong, its the fact that it is stoning which personlally is quite gruesome. in my opnion though the more gruesome the punishment a government a country has the less the criminals will be out to commit a crime in fear of the punishment. where would you rather steal a pearl necklace here where the punishment is a few years in jail and your released, or your hand gets chopped off, and you will no longer be able to steal
