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[Stein] Rockets Latest DMo offer "multiyear starts at a fully guaranteed $7m in Yr 1"

Discussion in 'Houston Rockets: Game Action & Roster Moves' started by heypartner, Nov 4, 2016.

  1. JJWhat?

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    How young do you think DMo is now?
     
  2. Raz

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    True, thanks for clarification. Just checked it, it's rather 40/60. Next to Mavs and Spurs, away games and the Heat, Magic and Grizzlies are for free as well.

    Still don't see the math from the original post work out.
     
  3. Bobbythegreat

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    Exactly. I think that's one of the major holdups here. If you offer a guy with a worse injury history 80 mil guaranteed but are sticking to your guns about only 7 mil guaranteed....I mean, what's he supposed to think about that?

    Personally I wish he'd have just accepted the QO because it would help the team, but I can't fault him for not trusting the Rockets FO and not wanting to reward them for being cheap with him while losing their minds with ridiculous contracts when it comes to everyone else.
     
  4. malakas

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    YEAH we will have the option to match. We will have about 48 hours while we are talking to Hayward or whoever else.
    And even if he gets next year 6 mil/3 year GUARANTEED it would be better for him than what we are offering.
    Security matters.
     
  5. Vivi

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    The thing is, why he just didn't sign the qo though? If he did, he would've 5 months left before he could've hit the free agency as unsrestricted free agent. This means that he's the first one to have no trust in his back or, he thought that signing the qo would've glued him to the bench for the entire season making his value drop by a lot.
     
  6. Gadd

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    Dmo most likely in Moscow CSKA, Europe. Quote me on it.
     
  7. HeWhoIsLunchbox

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    I'm sorry, this is straight up false. 7 million guaranteed for the first year is better than 6 million guaranteed over a 3 year contract. It's simply more money. And even if it was the same amount of money, getting the money sooner is always better. It's called the time value of money. Because that money can earn you interest, it's more valuable to receive it sooner than later. It's the same reason you always take the lump sum if you win the lottery.
     
  8. malakas

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    QO while giving freedom sooner gives all the risk to the player same as the unguaranteed contract. He could get injured in the playoffs this year and then not be able to get any offer.
    While DMO is healthy right now, his condition isn't one and done. Back problems are recurring. It's just noone knows when it will happen.
     
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  9. malakas

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    I meant 6 mil per. Not 6 mil total.
     
  10. Raz

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    Don't forget about the moratorium. This year, the most important deals were done by July 3rd or July 5th and you can't sign a RFA deal until July 7th. So that's not an issue.

    If he signs an overseas deal, no NBA team will give him 3 years guaranteed, even if 100% healthy.
     
  11. HeWhoIsLunchbox

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    Ah. Yes, that would be a better contract for him.
     
  12. malakas

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    In the new CBA RFA won't have to wait for the moratorium but will be able to agree like UFA during it.

    We will know more in about two weeks.
    Interesting to see if true.

    There is a Russian team ex- GM posting in this forum but I don't know who Gadd is.
     
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  13. Gadd

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    I am not that, but I figured it out thanks to some circumstances. I've been a follower of this sub for a long time, just thought I'd share my prediction.
     
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    Especially with a broken back... ;)
     
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    I'm sure so many teams will be willing to lock up their cap space for 48 hours for DMo instead of chasing other free agents as well. His RFA didn't affect our ability to sign Anderson, Gordon, and Nene this past summer. He's not a day one free agent. By the time he signs an offer, our success with targets like Hayward will have long been decided.

    As for security, what's he going to do this year? If he plays in Europe and his back flares up, his NBA career is over. And he'd never even sniff that $7 million. So he's unwilling to play for us for fear of injury and non-guaranteed money, but he'll play overseas without security either? Is he just going to sit out the entire season?
     
  16. Ming The King

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    We are saying the same. he has to prove that his back is healty and he can play well. if he is not healty now or in this season he can be hapoy with the 7M
     
  17. malakas

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    Why not?
    There are about 15 teams tht will have less than max $ in cap anyway. Lock up 6 mil for DMO for 48 hours? Any day of the week.

    I like your optimism that you think that Hayward Griffin and Ibaka or whoever else will have signed by that time when they will be he most sought after FAs."Long be decided"...ok.

    This past summer the rules of RFA were different than they will be next summer.
    Who knows if he will even sign in Europe? Plus in Europe a) there are at most 3 games a week b) half of the games are against scrubs.
    Unless he signs in Spain. Only then the championship and cup requires effort.
     
  18. malakas

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    No. He doesn't have to. WE want him to.
    DMO has to get the best deal for him. An unguaranteed multiple year cheap contract is not the best for him.

    Ezeli has one knee and at least got 14 mil even if the second year is ung. We didn't even offer 10. And I bet OUR contract is longer than 1+1.
     
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  19. Ming The King

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    If our contract is longer than 1+1, Im with you. morey is playing to much hard ball.

    If not, dmo should take the money and start playing
     
  20. Bobbythegreat

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    Exactly. We can be fans and want DMo to sign a bad deal for him, but we should at least admit that we are offering him garbage.
     

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