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[NYT] This Election Changed My Mind About America

Discussion in 'BBS Hangout: Debate & Discussion' started by Cohete Rojo, Nov 20, 2016.

  1. Cohete Rojo

    Cohete Rojo Member

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    I think everyone just needs to calm down. There really have been quite a few hostile reactions in this thread and others.

    For instance, here is a Cornell professor claiming that "science failed". No, science did not fail - theories failed. I once, long ago, thought that liberal-leaning academics were supposedly smarter than the average Joe/Jane. This election has now changed my mind about the current state of STEM in this country, considering the way that STEM folk are reacting to the election.

    It'd be funny if these reactions were not genuine. Here is Paul Krugman's reaction:

    Of course they don't, Paul. lol
     
  2. MojoMan

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    As long as it has been in existence, the Republican party has always been about the elite of the elite, the 0.1%, and the bottom scraping uneducated suckers they were able to rope in to vote for them. People who don't read regular books and think that anything that wasn't placed by their masters into their sanctioned horsefeeders must be part of the "liberal bias in the media". The bigger the lower class becomes, the more powerful the Republicans get, because that's just more and more poor idiots like Dei and bigtexxx you can fool into believing they are in the former group.
     
  4. JeffB

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    Amazing how blatant white supremacy, corruption & self-dealing, and authoritarian tendencies can change an opinion. Even the "R" media, including FoxNews, are disturbed by what is happening. And we are only 2-weeks in.
     
  5. shorerider

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    What do "dem libruls" think of all those illegals?



    Man he sounds a lot like someone I've seen on TV recently.
     
  6. Deckard

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    What do you have to do with the Democratic Party?
     
  7. Cohete Rojo

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    They are America's largest political party. I happen to be American. I therefore take an interest in their activities and dealings.

    I also happen to support some of their core beliefs and not support others. Still others I am indifferent or indecisive about.

    I mean, Clinton did just raise $900 million for her campaign. That ain't exactly chump change it don't exactly come from grandmas living on social security.
     
  8. sirbaihu

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    There's a difference between being smart and having experience/education. For example, you are not smarter than when you were a kid: you have more education and experience.

    Ph.D.'s are each specialized in a very narrow field. Ph.D. holders can talk on their fields. They aren't like the Professor on Gilligan's Island , who can make a radio out of a coconut.

    To me this election showed that many "liberals-leaning academics" are out of touch with Joe/Jane Six Pack's experience of life. Likewise, Donald Trump and many Americans have no freaking clue about life in "the inner cities." And so on. That's what everyone is saying about a divided country: we don't know each other's lives.
     
  9. glynch

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    WRT to Bill's video on illegal immigrants shown above ...

    That remark from a previous day is so reminiscent of the Clintons when pushing mass incarceration, abandoning the unions cozying up to the banksters. Remember when Bill took time off in the middle of his campaign to return to Arkansas to watch a r****ded (iirc wrt to his IQ) man be executed just to appease white southerners and show he, too was tough on crime? As has been said about Hillary "She believes or says whatever at the moment seems necessary to win an election." OK, she really believed in helping kids, if it did not overly jeopardize the election at hand.

    Now the time has come for a new Democratic Party that has a firm belief that they should represent the needs of the majority, including the "poor" -- so sorry to use that word that focus groups show is not a happy face-- and not just the highly educated coastal elite/ donors or that part of the minority population that has gone to college.
     
  10. JeffB

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    Well put. Democrats shifted further and further to the right to win elections and compete with the RNC for donors. Meanwhile the Republican party shifted even further to the right, leading to a consensus center between the parties that was more to the right than that center was in the early '80s despite the fact the nation continued to become more culturally liberal. That hasn't boded well for unions, the poor, working poor, or middle income America. This is something Robert Reich has been obsessing about for a long, long time in columns and treatises about what he was calling Supercapitalism.
     

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