Will there be mass protests / violence post-election day?

If they are protesting the result that everyone has verified wouldn't that be bordering on treason?

 

The point is that an anti Trump protest simply because he won the election just seems like kids being salty about losing. If thousands took to the streets protesting Obama's election IMO it would have been wrong too. There were millions who were VERY against everything Obama ran on, and were afraid he'd hurt the country, but they took the loss like adults. Apparently it's too much to ask these days.

Also, they aren't really helping their cause by burning American flags.....

 

No, not at all. Now those calling for a revolution are getting a bit closer to that line. Either way, unless they promote violence of some kind, it's protected free speech.

 

No, they are not arguing the validity of his win any ways. Most are just upset with the win but angry that their country elected a racist, sexist, xenophobe. That's how they see it and they are just protesting against it.

Yes it is because he simply won the election...but put it like this. I talked a lot about feelings and this will be my last post on this tonight because it's late and we are going in circles here, but here is an extreme example. Many people FEEL that Trump is super dangerous. Whether that is true or not is irrelevant to how they feel at this moment right?

Well this is what people are saying...

"We can't let it stop us. If he's the President then fine, but if Donald Trump is gonna be it then he has to listen,"
"People are furious not just at the results of the election, but the rhetoric of Donald Trump,"
"Hate won't win."
"you are not alone"
"Everything that has been built up has been destroyed. ... America has failed (minorities)."

This isn't just about Trump winning, it's also as I said a "You better not F with us." protest. People are scared. They don't know that Trump probably won't be able to enact half the things they are most terrified about but that doesn't change their fear. For them this is directed directly at Trump and some of his deplorables. That's all it is. It's just a clear statement of "We are here and we won't stand for going backwards."

 

These people are protesting out of fear, not as much policy. A lot of people have fear for Trump. A lot of people disliked Obama's policies, but a small minority of them actually feared him like these people fear Trump. Like I said if a generic Republican like Rubio had won it's doubtful there would be as much panic.

 

My point all along was that people felt the EXACT same way about Obama when he was elected. They FELT that Obama was super dangerous.....but they weren't out in the streets making asses of themselves burning American flags the day after the election. It's about being an adult and handling things in appropriate ways.

Be worried, be upset, but don't throw a temper tantrum until you have a real reason to.

 

Peaceful protest is necessary and in the American tradition. Violence and property destruction should no be tolerated. Period.

But I'm gonna go way more long winded than normal here just because of the amount of assuaging of fear I have had to do today with people in my personal life...

There are a lot of people who were caricatured as objects to fear by a Trump campaign that ran on economic insecurity AND hatred and bigotry. Those people are understandably filled with fear; Trump essentially already told them they should be afraid. He outlined the key things various communities had to fear: a more empowered police state, stop and frisk (which in implementation and lived experience turns into harassing random black people with no respect to their personal dignity), mass deportation (which may include splitting families), more incarceration, religious repression (dude actually said he wanted a muslim registry), anti-homosexual sentiment, etc. There were claims right-leaning people feared Obama over things Obama never said. So imagine the fear of people who are fearful of things Trump is actually recorded as saying, proudly stated, and dog-whistled and megaphoned repeatedly while surrounding himself with white nationalists.

And that last part is probably most painful to a number of idealistic young liberals who grew up with fanciful ideas about how pluralistic our society is due to maturing and coming of age over the last 8 years with a black dude as president. They don't understand why so many people who may not be racist themselves but were willing to align themselves with racists and bigots in this cause to take back their country. Those Trump rallies were sights to behold. Could have come right out of some 1960s era news reel. The anger expressed. The rejection of non-whites -- not by all -- but by some of the participants without condemnation of that hatred by the campaign or others at the rallies. That is enough reason to be fearful. It may not matter what Trump himself does; what matters is what his followers believe than can now get away with.

If you are muslim, black, female, gay, latino, not WASP, this fear is very real. Just look at how CNN's Corey Lewandowski went apoplectic on Van Jones. Dude's candidate won the election and he still went on a rage tiff. That is ****ing scary. To know such angry people now control all branches of government and are still angry. It shouldn't take much to empathize with this.

My oldest daughter contacted me election night to let me know that people were protesting/celebrating near her campus (which is near the state capitol) with guns, confederate flags, and various racist depictions of Obama and using various slurs and foul language. After having to walk a block away from that crowd to reach her dorm room, she decided she wouldn't leave her dorm at all today for personal safety. This isn't imaginary fear. The bigotry replayed on video from the Trump rallies is that same bigotry on the streets where she used to felt safe. And of course this anxiety is heightened when random people are trolling by making comments about how you should be afraid of the new order that is gonna put you in your place.
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This is where political leadership needs to step up. Sanders and Obama are needed to step up and go to places and give these youngsters institutional channels into which they can pour their passion. Get to work preparing for the midterms, the 2020 Census (redistricting), and developing new party leadership via local elections. Yelling in the street might be cathartic but we must respect our institutions, while they are not corrupted, and work to get them back into bi-partisan control.

In an ideal world, at this moment in the timeline, president-elect Trump would come out and rebuke bigotry and make empathetic statements toward the humanity of and civil liberty of the people whose likenesses he exploited to coagulate his white base. These protestors are asking him to acknowledge them as valuable humans who have a place in this country. But I know that might be a fanciful thing to expect.

 

I said what compromise looks like and what they want. I'd say it's you that's not listening,

 

Your can or can't typo confused me honestly, but the post doesn't change really. They are very clear about what this is about, Jeff has a brilliant post above that put it 10x better than I did these past few pages. Compromise if you listen to them would be clear. Trump has to make it clear that he stands for all the people he went after. That would be good start I think.

 

if you must riot/protest (both do nothing for me), do it when Trump does something bad

rioting/protesting against the democratic process the day after is how you stay in permanent minority status

all they are doing is helping Trump with their antics

 

Ah yes, the mythical republican who is acceptable to the left.

Like Mitt Romney who was as generic a Republican as has ever existed, except by the time that election was over he was as sexist, racist, xenophobic as they came. If he had won they would be out there protesting the exact same thing.

The result? Everyone not brainwashed by pop culture ignores you. This is the price the left gets for crying wolf every single time (because it's literally their only card).

 

I can't facking stand protesters who block busy highways. So selfish and they are hurting the wrong people. I hope nothing serious requires access to/through those areas.

 

On my walk home from work this evening here in Chicago I wanted to swing by the intersection of Wabash and Upper Wacker where the gathering of protesters were at. I live 2 blocks north of the Trump Tower so it was on the way home. I walked by 3 times just to I can see what all the fuss was about as I am genuinely curious. I did not vote in this election as I do not support any of the two candidates. I am 35 year old working professional.

This is what I saw:

- About 150 people. None of which looked over the age of 25. 60/40 female to male ratio. Not to be judgmental but none of them looked like they showered in days. I am being for real here.

- Trash thrown all over the ground. Everything from food wrappers , mix of coke and beer cans, torn signs, left over banners... and a pair of shoes..?

- Spray painted graffiti on the street, along the walls of the river walk and all over the bus station seats and framed structure with "**** Trump" , "Racist" , "Not My President" and "Love Trumps Hate". Mind you... not chalk or washable paint. All out spray paint graffiti on city property.

- Damage to the warning lights that are used to signal when the bridge over the Chicago river lifts to let under passing boats go by was damaged and destroyed beyond repair.

- 3 hipster/liberal appearing lesbian type girls (not sure how else to describe it?) got in a heated argument with eachother and started fighting.

- Shattered bus station tempered glass all over from somebody breaking the glass walls of the covered bus station at that corner.

- Bunch of homeless bums asking everyone for money. None of the "protesters" seemed to give them any.

- Tons of police officers blocking the Wabash bridge to the Trump tower.

- 3 Girls sitting on the sidewalk crying and holding eachother. All looked about 18-20.

- Illicit drug use by about 10-15 attendees that I saw.

- Majority of people standing around not doing much of anything

Granted, this was all isolated to the one location, however it was the primary location of the gathering. I am sure the group was a lot larger at one point. None of the people I saw seemed to have any sort of real life responsibilities it seemed. Kids with misguided, or confused (I dont know how to put it) visions. They did not look like people who had true professional lives. I mean for all I know, this is what they do in their spare time. Who knows.

In the end, I ended up just walking back home shaking my head and not taking it seriously.

Just a observation of what I saw tonight.

 

I can understand being angry and disappointed. I would be if I lived in the us. However violence is never the answer. And people usong violence are bad people.

 

If the Texans lose there will be protests outside of the Jaguars owners house, It's the American way.

 

Accept only one group consistently showing their true stripes. Twitter is exploding right now with the amount of crazed lefties want to kill Trump. Did it happen with Barry when he won the election in 08? Didn't think so!!!

 

The amount of butt hurt in here esp Jay and Bob over a democratic process that didn't go their way is laughable.

 

Is this a joke?

People were calling for someone to take out obama right and left. You had white people quoting the old "tree of liberty...blood of patriots" line, you had militias preparing to use force to defend gun rights, etc.

Young lefties take to the streets, it's a left tradition lol. Republicans cheered on while armed ranchers threatened to kill obamas goons trying to enforce a judges order.

 

Seriously? Heck, someone yelled out "Kill Obama!"during Trump's acceptance speech. Ted Nugent wanted to elect Trump and kill both Obama and Hillary. Over the years numerous threats to Obama. Numerous effigies of Obama hanging from trees in 2008.

The republican senate leader pledging to make Obama a one term president as the number one objective of the republican congress. A republican congressman yelling out "liar!" during a national speech on heathcare by Obama.

I am hoping Trump doesn't get any of the treatment got through his presidency... the very fact you use "Barry" suggests your disrespect for Obama.