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Undefeated with Corey Brewer as a starter

Discussion in 'Houston Rockets: Game Action & Roster Moves' started by Os Trigonum, Nov 7, 2016.

  1. Os Trigonum

    Os Trigonum Member
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    Corey Brewer is a true professional and I hope he keeps starting for the Houston Rockets.

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  3. Madmanmetz

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    Rockets undefeated when Brewer only takes 2 shot. That is the real spin on the story.
     
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  4. FTW Rockets FTW

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    Consummate professional

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  5. Amel

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    Please add down voting

    This guy is pissing me off
     
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  6. TracywtFacy

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    Undefeated. And let's keep it that way (I.e. off the bench for all remaining games).
     
  7. Obito

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    I remember when we first got Brewer, he had a string a games where he was playing amazing.

    How the above average have fallin'.
     
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    His 1st game as a Rockets was the game where Harden had the 28 or 29 first half points against the Blazers and Brewer was hitting 3's and I thought wow this guy might be ok but as that season ended quickly found out how terrible he really is. This guy might be one of the worst role players in the league.
     
  9. DrNuegebauer

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    We should have traded for Brewer 5-6 years ago and started him. We'd be back to back to back to back to back to back champions at 82-0 each year.

    Surely the BBS will soon realize how wrong they are about Brewer? One of the all time greats.
     
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  10. daywalker02

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    The beginning of the End

    Kudos to Brewer
     
  11. Lawlruschang

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    we started brewer vs the warriors and were crushed
     
  12. Exiled

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    We were undefeated earlier when Bobby Brown played 11 sec. Hopefully we see more of those great individual achievement
     
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  13. Nivos

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    Can someone please explain to me all the hate on Brewer? I just don't get it.
    He's such a good and positive guy, which must be so valuable in the locker room with so many reserved character guys (Harden, Ariza, Capella...).
    He always pushes the pace and it's contagious in offense and in defense.
    Ye he's not a stable shooter but usually he does the right play.
    I like the man on my team.
     
  14. rocketsballin

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    im gonna jinx the holy **** out of this thread

    brewer is the best fill in starter in the league!
     
  15. Mathloom

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    Because there's a minimum standard at which positive outlook and running fast are not enough to make up for the negative.

    He's usually either a bad defender or an active defender who fouls frequently and unnecessarily. Things work in his favor when he happens to be defending a young opponent who is easily frazzled by flailing arms. Beverley is similar except he doesn't foul as much, he gets the player mentally into a jawing match and he roughs them up. That makes a difference much more often.

    Brewer doesn't make the right play more often than the average NBA player. For all his feel-good qualities, he is a selfish offensive player. He's really really selfish, putting his head down, constantly taking on 3-4 defenders alone in transition, missing players who are open for kick outs, etc. Also he has gotten noticeably slower, probably because he's one of those guys who has had a great metabolism all his life and he has perhaps confused skinniness with optimal health, and now that's catching up to him. This could be viewed as "pushing the pace" but there has to be a tiny bit of thought that goes into pushing the pace. You can't be a fastbreak hero 10 times out of 10, even if it looks great the 1 time it works. The NBA has gotten faster, and he has probably gotten a bit slower. That competitive edge he had is gone. It's like Ryan Anderson getting worse at hitting 3's while the league gets better at it - it would kind of erode his whole value.

    Brewer is such a terrible 3pt shooter. He's not just a "not stable" shooter. He's been atrocious for 1 year now, and he was atrocious before in his career. If you look at it objectively, he was always a terrible shooter who had a couple of seasons better than his average. He has hit 28% of 1,500+ 3pt shots in his career. He is terrible at this thing, and from what we've heard he practices to improve in this area. It's important to acknowledge that he is extremely bad, not just "not good". If you were drafting NBA rotation SG/SF's based on who is the worst shooter, Brewer would be a top pick. That's how bad he is. I don't blame him for that, and it's not for lack of trying, but that's the truth.

    The way you describe him is like a Shane Battier and he's not. Battier could hit 3's and defend and make smart plays along with everything Brewer does. We're not at a point where we need that kind of player, we are re-tooling and we have a talent crisis on our hands. Brewer is the kind of guy who might work on a veteran team aiming for a ring who have a 15th roster spot and no other prospects to fill that roster spot.

    Right now with the talent problem we have, we should be taking risks on guys like Archie Goodwin (who's now signed by the Pels) rather than giving 20 minutes to a guy who is not going to be in our plans to be contenders next season. We don't have roster spots or minutes to spare in developing Wiltjer, KJ, Capela, Dekker, Harrell, even Ennis.

    We need to waive the guy and be smart about rebuilding because we have an owner that refuses to tank. Incremental improvements in talent are very important to a team like ours.
     
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    I wouldn't dare to compare Brewer to one of my of favorite players in recent memory.
    But I think people are really devaluing good locker room guys, sometimes, especially when your leader is introvert (which is cool) it's much more impportant than skill or talent.
    And on the court, he brings that energy level up, you can't deny it.
    Nevertheless I think that in this team his value is much greater than what meets the eye.

    Mathloom, post: 10757907, member: 33940"]Because there's a minimum standard at which positive outlook and running fast are not enough to make up for the negative.

    He's usually either a bad defender or an active defender who fouls frequently and unnecessarily. Things work in his favor when he happens to be defending a young opponent who is easily frazzled by flailing arms. Beverley is similar except he doesn't foul as much, he gets the player mentally into a jawing match and he roughs them up. That makes a difference much more often.

    Brewer doesn't make the right play more often than the average NBA player. For all his feel-good qualities, he is a selfish offensive player. He's really really selfish, putting his head down, constantly taking on 3-4 defenders alone in transition, missing players who are open for kick outs, etc. Also he has gotten noticeably slower, probably because he's one of those guys who has had a great metabolism all his life and he has perhaps confused skinniness with optimal health, and now that's catching up to him. This could be viewed as "pushing the pace" but there has to be a tiny bit of thought that goes into pushing the pace. You can't be a fastbreak hero 10 times out of 10, even if it looks great the 1 time it works. The NBA has gotten faster, and he has probably gotten a bit slower. That competitive edge he had is gone. It's like Ryan Anderson getting worse at hitting 3's while the league gets better at it - it would kind of erode his whole value.

    Brewer is such a terrible 3pt shooter. He's not just a "not stable" shooter. He's been atrocious for 1 year now, and he was atrocious before in his career. If you look at it objectively, he was always a terrible shooter who had a couple of seasons better than his average. He has hit 28% of 1,500+ 3pt shots in his career. He is terrible at this thing, and from what we've heard he practices to improve in this area. It's important to acknowledge that he is extremely bad, not just "not good". If you were drafting NBA rotation SG/SF's based on who is the worst shooter, Brewer would be a top pick. That's how bad he is. I don't blame him for that, and it's not for lack of trying, but that's the truth.

    The way you describe him is like a Shane Battier and he's not. Battier could hit 3's and defend and make smart plays along with everything Brewer does. We're not at a point where we need that kind of player, we are re-tooling and we have a talent crisis on our hands. Brewer is the kind of guy who might work on a veteran team aiming for a ring who have a 15th roster spot and no other prospects to fill that roster spot.

    Right now with the talent problem we have, we should be taking risks on guys like Archie Goodwin (who's now signed by the Pels) rather than giving 20 minutes to a guy who is not going to be in our plans to be contenders next season. We don't have roster spots or minutes to spare in developing Wiltjer, KJ, Capela, Dekker, Harrell, even Ennis.

    We need to waive the guy and be smart about rebuilding because we have an owner that refuses to tank. Incremental improvements in talent are very important to a team like ours.[/QUOTE]
     
  17. rocketsballin

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    who the hell compared brewer to battier? omfg thats not only ban-able thats shameful disgusting display of illiterate basketball knowledge. lord have mercy on that mofo soul, cuz i def wont have any. brewer cant even hold batter's jockstrap, let alone be compared to him. i'd take the has been heat battier over prime brewer any day of the week.
     
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  18. Jontro

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    I've been saying from the beginning that the brew is a great player, but everybody scolded me, put me on ignore lists, and even said i was adopted. now look who's laughing. we're less than 10 games in and already in championship form, thanks to the brew.

    I've also started using Bowflex and am in the best shape of my life.
     
  19. daywalker02

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    This team is a One man team.

    Brewer is solidly inconsistent and not someone significant.
     
  20. FTW Rockets FTW

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    Stop writing essays to describe how Brewer plays. he doesn't deserve it.

    In layman terms, Brewer plays like a headless chicken.
     

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