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Trump ahead in 284 states, per former Clinton ally

Discussion in 'BBS Hangout: Debate & Discussion' started by Carl Herrera, Nov 5, 2016.

  1. SWTsig

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    jeez man you have it all figured out don't you. kinda strange that everything you know to be absolutely true fits perfectly into your political worldview, don't you think?
     
  2. tmacfor35

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    I agree I have some bias and it can be difficult to be neutral politically.

    If Hilary wins tomorrow I will support her 100% because that is the Democratic way.

    I take no disrespect for heated opinions because it is pleasent to see other Americans so passionate about America.

    I will always let my views be seen in hopes I can change someone's vote albeit unlikely. I think my views would benefit the country the most long term but that doesn't mean I am correct.
     
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  3. Surfguy

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    After the way Donald has handled himself in his election campaign, I'll never accept him as president. He's a buffoon that belongs nowhere near the White House. I just can't do it. A guy with no political experience dumping on Clinton who has a lifetime of experience the way he has...to hell with him. He took this road that he wants to criminalize Clinton and make her look bad because he has no other legs to stand on. It's pathetic. Every speech he gives is total horse crap.
     
  4. tmacfor35

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    You need to watch a Clinton rally.
    She was talking about Trump's rape trial scheduled for December that got dropped two days ago. She's been worse lately.

    You need to accept the presidency as any American should if it is indeed a fair election for both parties.
     
  5. No Worries

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    Woman Suing Donald Trump Over Alleged Rape Drops Lawsuit

    A civil suit against Donald Trump alleging he raped a 13-year-old girl was dismissed in California in May 2016, refiled in New York in June 2016, and dropped again in November 2016.

    A woman who had accused Donald Trump of raping her when she was a 13-year-old girl has once again dropped her lawsuit against the Republican presidential candidate. Thomas Meagher, an attorney for the complainant (known only by the pseudonyms "Jane Doe" and "Katie Johnson"), filed a voluntary dismissal in district court in New York on 4 November 2016, two days after the putative victim was a no-show at a scheduled press conference.

    The complainant cited "numerous threats" against her life as the reason behind both her non-appearance and her dropping of the lawsuit. The woman alleged that Trump and billionaire Jeffrey Epstein had raped her in 1994, when she was a 13-year-old aspiring model.
     
  6. okierock

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    People are complaining about Trump being underhanded but the number of "accusers" that appeared against Trump just in time for the final push of the election is proof that the Dem. party and the media have no moral line they won't cross. Not one of these accusations has been rooted in any fact but the damage is the same. The funny thing about looking at this from Trump's side is, he could come up with a bunch of "accusers" against Hillary but she has so many already it would just be distracting from the reality of her criminal behavior.
     
  7. GladiatoRowdy

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    Care for a tipjar bet?
     
  8. ROXTXIA

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    And it just keeps getting worse.

    The lowest of the low was when CNN hired Lewandowski. So starved for the ratings that Trump brings (you hate him, you watch; you like him, you watch). Trump should have been stopped in Munich but here he is, media-fed and that close to the presidency. Not that he'll concede if he loses. The Donald.......does not lose.

    The Dems have no moral line they won't cross? Jeez, how the conservatives are blind to their own scumbags.
     
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    How are accusers coming out against Trump proof of Democratic party doing anything? What evidence is there to tie this to the Democratic party? We don't know that these accusations are based in fact or not based in fact. They could well be based in fact.
     
  10. okierock

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    Yeah... and they all came out 30 years late right before the election.... seriously?
     
  11. No Worries

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    FBI Director screaming "Emails!!!" 10 days before the election, just to walk it back 3 days before the election. And 12 days before, Rudy G said "something big" is coming to knock Hillary down in the polls. The sniff test says this story was a partisan attack.

    If the MSM had spent as much time on the Trump 13 year old rape allegations as they did on the great-big-o-nothing-burger of "Emails!!!", you might have a point.

    WRT all of the sexual assault accusers, their story matches Donald's own words ... Grab'em by the p***y!!!

    BTW can you imagine, if there was a 13 year girl claiming Bill Clinton raped her, how completely off the rails the Fox News Crazy Train would have went?
     
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    If I remember correctly these women started coming forward when Donald denied sexually assaulting anyone in the debates.

    He kind of brought it on himself.
     
  13. okierock

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    Emails... Clinton broke the law and that is a fact. She may not be prosecuted which is IMO the biggest partisan attack of the entire election.

    The only reason the news didn't put the 13 year old girl story everywhere is because if they had actually shown the "facts" of the case everyone would have known it was BS. It was far a far more effective attack on Trumps character to just let it sit out there and not really dig into the facts.

    Donald is an idiot and has said a LOT of stupid crap... I'm surprised that there aren't more tapes like that one.
     
  14. No Worries

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    Clinton breaking the law is not unarguably a fact. If it was a clear cut fact, the FBI would have indicted her.
     
  15. FranchiseBlade

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    First of all they didn't. Before he was ever running for President he had to settle a suit of sexual harassment. This suit was also brought up before the election. Also add to that the fact the tape exposing Trump bragging about sexual assault came up which could easy give women a reason to come forward with their story especially when Trump denied ever doing the things he was bragging about doing.

    So they didn't all just come out 30 years later right before an election. For those that did, there is reasonable explanation as to why.

    There is zero evidence tying these women the Democratic party. The only evidence is that to you it seems suspicious. That's it, nothing other than that.
     
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    I know right? First of all, these "accusers" had the privilege of being raped by the great one, and instead of being honored and flattered by it, they want to come out against him, without thinking about the fact that the timing might be inconvenient for him?

    The nerve of these women. They better not let all this distract them from making sure their man's sandwich is hot and fresh the minute they get home from work. This is why you don't let them out of the kitchen, amirite?!?
     
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    First, the Texas Republican Party has been making efforts to change in response to demographic shifts. It's not that they don't want those votes, it's that it's a waste of time when they historically vote in overwhelming support of Democrats. Especially for local or state elections, when you have precious few resources and have to maximize your vote drives. However, RPT is encouraging campaign managers to shift towards actively engaging minority populations. It's not a race thing. It's a numbers thing. Also, Republicans often aren't invited or encouraged to attend minority functions like black or Hispanic chambers of commerce. It's hard to go into a house you feel unwelcome and don't expect to get a single vote from.
     
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    You are crazy If you don't think Donald has boned a few 16-17 year olds. Not that his supporters care, but it is just obvious.
     
  19. mdrowe00

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    This is all well and good, Kevooooo...

    ...but the fact of the matter is that the Republicans brought this on themselves with how they've behaved politically towards minorities in the past 30 years or so.

    Just as a matter of principle, it would be difficult for most black people (especially around 1964), to vote almost exclusively for a party that decided to do an about-face on all of that "...republican history of freeing the slaves..." stuff, and actively cater to racists and white supremacists.

    Richard Nixon was able to get around 30% of the "black" vote when he ran for his first term. He was as much a utilizer of the "Southern Strategy" as George McGovern was a legitimizer of it. Media saturation was barely a tenth of what it is now, though...so he could get the racist white people committed to voting for him early, and later soften his rhetoric for the general election.

    Coach ran that play in high school all the time. Called it the "okie-doke". Fake left, go right.

    Literally.

    And that's been pretty much the national party strategy. Except that now, people hear what you say or see what you do almost before you're done saying or doing it.

    See, here's the thing: they're going to have to make a choice...in light of your "numbers game" analogy. The Republicans are going to have to get rid of their loose (and sometimes tight) affiliations with white supremacist groups. There's not going to be any tolerance for equivocation of that behavior anymore.

    If they had any ideas to begin with, they wouldn't have to worry about numbers as much. They've had a golden opportunity to address immigration in some form...and passed on it. Just something that made a little bit of sense might have swayed a lot of Hispanic voters to their side, for example. Categorically dismissing a demographic in this country should be political suicide.

    Doing nothing sometimes is doing something.

    They didn't bother trying to win votes they thought were worthless for many years...and spent all that time lying to the people who were loyal to them about what they could do for them, and stop the government from doing to them. And opened the door wide for Donald Trump.

    Republicans ain't invited to minority chamber-of-commerce shindigs or get-togethers?

    Do tell.

    Cutting off your nose to spite your face still doesn't seem too smart, as ideas go.

    They're reaping the rewards of cowards. That's all.

    “ First they came for the Socialists, and I did not speak out—
    Because I was not a Socialist.

    Then they came for the Trade Unionists, and I did not speak out—
    Because I was not a Trade Unionist.

    Then they came for the Jews, and I did not speak out—
    Because I was not a Jew.

    Then they came for me—and there was no one left to speak for me.”

    Pastor Martin Niemöller
     
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