New York Times: Hillary Clinton illegally used private email for all State Dept. business

This is your statement (opinion) on competence. Many share it. Others do not. Regardless...

The bullshit I have seen expressed by those here who support the Clintons is appalling. Rather than railing against it and expecting more from their leaders, they participate in the corruption and cover up. Its astonishing. It would be like if the Republicans nominated Nixon after Watergate and pushing him through to re-election again.

You obviously don't dispute the corruption of the Clintons. Yet, you and others are choosing corruption as the better option. I will never understand this train of thought, regardless of how bad any other candidate is. I weep for my country today. I have never felt as disillusioned in my 52 years as I do today. Acceptance of corruption means we are lost as a country. That's where we are in 2016.

 

I simply don't trust Trump. I think that someone as reckless as he is could have serious consequences and that's why I see the super corrupt Clinton (with a Republican controlled congress) as the best option. Hillary doesn't really stand for anything so I think she'd be willing to work with an opposition controlled congress in order to push things they could both agree with. I don't think it'll be anything like the nonsense between the opposition controlled congress and the ideologue in chief that we've had to deal with for years now.

Also, I think it's possible that Hillary could be impeached for her crimes once in office and that would be a pretty big win for America in that we wouldn't have to deal with either Trump or Clinton.

 

I, for one, am awaiting the evidence of the Clintons being corrupt. Unlike some obvious partisans, I haven't started from the conclusion she is corrupt and guilty and sought evidence to prove it.

In fact, I always thought she had to be dirty but after seeing decades of investigations into her and the last few years of investigations specifically targeting her, I have come around to the conclusion that if there was something there the RNC and FBI would have nailed her by now.

If that evidence appears later, then sign me up for the effigy burning. Until then, I would rather see my government institutions behave in accordance to the law, professionalism, and tradition. Not operating on innuendo and partisanship.

 

The only way you haven't seen sufficient evidence of Hillary's corruption is....

 

This answer shows "Trust" of Clinton at some level.

How on earth do you come to the conclusion you trust her at any level?

Meanwhile, she gets to pick supreme court nominees. I thought you leaned right?

There will be no impeachment. You know this. If the FBI can't get her when its dead bang....there will never be an impeachment. Give me a break.

 

I "trust" Hillary only in comparison to Trump. Also, with a Republican controlled house and Senate, she can nominate anyone she wants, but unless that person is a true moderate, they won't be confirmed. Also when it comes to SCOTUS nominations, I see no reason to think Trump would be the better person for that job. I mean, hell he spent his life as a Democrat and was a Hillary supporter just a few years ago. There's no basis to think he's any better than she is.

 

He's already given his list of 10 people he would nominate. Who do you object to?

 

It's not that I object, it's that I don't believe him. He's a con man, quoting him is pretty pointless because he'd say anything to get what he wants.

 

If Al Gore runs as a Republican in 2020, will you support him @TheresTheDagger ?

 

What? Is this some "bizarro world"? LOL.

No. He's a part of the Clinton machine and part of the horrible establishment.

Never.

 

......you do realize that Trump was part of the "Clinton machine" just 8 years ago right? Now you are arguing that he's a conservative simply becuase the Republicans were stupid enough to give him their nomination. Being that I'm not a Republican to begin with, I'm just not subject to that kind of partisan support.

 

My thinking is along that line, but this is why I was thinking it was a wash to helping her.

I thought that the poll weren't accurate not because of polling errors as much as a large number of conservative truly didn't want to vote for Trump (and the poll reflected that), but will do so anyway when pulling that lever. The initial letter "corrected" the poll by bringing these people out - the letter was a reason for them to move toward Trump then, instead of in the polling station, which polling would miss.

Trump doesn't have an enthusiasm problem among his supporters. Whatever the news, it faded quickly among his supporters. There was a chance some don't vote, but I thought that was a slim chance. Trump's voters will show up IOW. Clinton, OTH, have had an enthusiasm issue. It bounced up and down based on news as reflected by polls. That, plus the idea that it was a safe win for her equate to a good chance of lower turnout for her.

The polls showing a closer race and the huge push back against the FBI by the Clinton's campaign in response to the initial letter (in a way, it's similar to the rigged idea from Trump) increases enthusiasm among her supporters and should increase voter turnout. Recent poll showed that her enthusiasm level was already slipping after the 3rd debate (and before the letter). It took a hit with the letter and had since fully recovered to her peak that occurred right after the 1st debate.

If not for the letter, perhaps poll continue to show a safe win, when it might not be and thus Trump could sneak by due to lower turn out for Clinton. This is where I thought the letter was either a wash to actually helping her.

Now that the 2nd letter clear her... what can I say.

 

Stating he's anything close to the Clinton machine at this point is laughable.

And while I have never argued Trump was a conservative (this was a lie you said), its appears from this election that he supports a hell of a lot more conservative ideas than Clinton. Since you're into comparisons so much, would at least agree with this?

In the meantime, where the hell are you going with this? Why not ask me if I would support Jimmy Carter as a Republican? :/

 

What I'm saying is that you have bought his BS and somehow believe he is the guy that he's pretended to be for a few years now rather than the person he was for the entire rest of his life. If a con man told you that if you give him 500 bucks that he'll double your money in a week, are you going to fork over the cash? That's what trusting Trump is doing.

When you talk about Trump ideas, of course you only mean what he's said the last few years and not the exact opposite positions he held the rest of his life.....for me I don't dismiss the positions he held his whole life so I can't say that he supports more conservative ideas than Clinton.....hell Clinton spent more of her life as a Republican than Trump has.

 

You basically summed up my exact thoughts. Couldn't have said it better.

I sincerely hope that whoever gets elected gets impeached shortly into their tenure. It would be best for the country.

That being said, a corrupt Hillary is better than a ticking time bomb with no idea of foreign policy in Trump. At least Hillary is less likely to get us into another catastrophic war. Trump has said he loves war.

Hillary, with a Republican Congress is probably best case scenario. She'll push the issues and work with Congress on what absolutely needs to be done, and she will most likely stay out of the way.

She may be corrupt, and to that, I say that most politicians are, but at least she's level headed and not a reactionist.

The only reason the depth of her corruption is known is because her husband was once President.

I'm sure if we could delve into more higher up politicians, we'd find the level of corruption in Washington is very high.

And let's not pretend like Trump is a saint and has never dealt with any corruption...

 

Anyone that supports trump is an idiot. No other conclusions can be drawn. He is literally uncle Biff from back to the future II. The very definition of a used car salesman. And yet somehow his supporters somehow believe that the guy who has sold everything from shitty steaks to fake education to sweatshop clothes all in the name of making a buck is now someone they can trust to lead this country. It's shameful.

 

The only honorable thing for Mr Comey to do is resign after Ms Clinton is elected president so she can appoint a new Director.

There really is no way for him to work for her.

 

Didn't he do enough for her already by refusing to do his job and pushing for an indictment after the FBI investigation uncovered that she's a criminal?

Just kidding I know that you are too blinded by partisanship to see that.

 

See?" And here I thought you were going to dog me for my "Mr" Clinton Freudian slip?

 

There's nothing else to be said, yet I'm terrified.

You'd have to go back to Barry Goldwater to find another candidate from either party who is more unsuitable to be President.