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Both sides are getting disgraceful

Discussion in 'BBS Hangout: Debate & Discussion' started by sirbaihu, Nov 4, 2016.

  1. Bobbythegreat

    Bobbythegreat Member
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    It's okay if you don't know that's how the government is set up. I don't really expect a lot from people down here in the D&D.
     
  2. Bobbythegreat

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    I certainly hope that is the case. If so, then it'll be a good thing for the country.
     
  3. Anticope

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    Nice deflection. Your whole "waiting for real leadership" BS will be blown to bits the second when (and if) a President Trump steps into office with a Republican senate.
     
  4. Bobbythegreat

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    .....and what would you want a Democrat controlled congress to do if they had to deal with Trump trying to shove awful legislation and awful SCOTUS justices down their throat? You'd want them to say no and wait for something better that they could live with right?

    Actually if we have to deal with Trump, you'll then see things my way if the Democrats take control of congress in the midterms. That's kind of how I know that your opinion on the issue is 100% based on partisanship. You want Obama's SCOTUS justice and you want his agenda passed so you are upset that he can't force his will on congress, simple as that. If the situation was reversed, you'd be glad that the government works as it does.
     
  5. Anticope

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    I would want my side to push back and try to force a compromise but the current Republican Senate hasn't even done that though, they've just done absolutely nothing instead. They've pretty much made it clear that they will do nothing and hold out for as long as possible, years if they have to, until there's a Republican president and you're defending it and calling me a biased partisan, good stuff. You didn't even deny that they would instantly cave in to the nominee of a Republican president (Trump) who you consider to be a joke.
     
  6. LosPollosHermanos

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    You're right, and I have great respect for them. In was speaking in terms of the general skew. Are there blind dems? Sure, but as someone that has voted overwhelmingly for the GOP in the past, most republicans put party before country.
     
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    LOL. Pot meet kettle.

    If you're willing to put someone under 2 separate investigations into the White House, there is no better example of "Party over country".
     
  8. mc mark

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    best to just let bobby be bobby and move on.
     
  9. tallanvor

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    Ever heard of the tea party? their main focus is taking out Republican incumbants in the primaries that they believe don't hold to their ideals. Republicans constantly eat and attack each other (usually for worse in the general election). Please tell me what group on the democratic side you think compares in size and has a similar agenda.
     
  10. Bobbythegreat

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    And if Trump wasn't willing to compromise....then what? If Trump told them that "elections have consequences" and essentially that they were just going to do things his way.....what then? Would you want Democrats to just go along with the program just to get things done? I'd bet not.

    You are blinded by partisanship, and that's okay, a lot of people are when it gets this close to an election. I'm just telling you that as a partisan, you WILL be on the other side of this at some point, it'll be interesting to see what you think then. Hell it wasn't that long ago that things WERE different, it's just that partisans are quick to forget that we haven't always been at war with Eastasia.
     
  11. pirc1

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    You can count on even less cooperation from the Republicans compared to how things stand currently if Hillary wins. Most likely case is Hillary in white house and a tiny Democrat edge in the senate and a Republican house. Nothings gets done as the house will be leaning even more right than it is currently.
     
  12. Bobbythegreat

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    Perhaps, it wouldn't be surprising that the result of the bottom of the barrel election didn't end up with a strong leader. If Hillary goes the same route as Obama, trying to just enforce her will on the congress, then more dealock will be the result especially since recent polls suggest that the Republicans will hold on to the house and even have a decent shot at holding on to the senate if only by one seat.

    I mean, that's just what happens when you elect poor leaders who can't bring the sides together....or poor leaders who push the two sides apart like Obama did.

    If Hillary has even a tiny bit of the political savvy that her husband has then things should be fine though. There will need to be a lot of compromise going on no matter who wins if things are going to break from the current deadlock. If she wants to get a SCOTUS nominee on the bench, it'll have to be a true moderate like Reagan put on the bench.....and no one has done since then.
     
  13. sirbaihu

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    This is totally nuts. So you don't respect people simply because of the position they hold? What line of work are you in? Do you even have a boss?

    The president is indeed above other people in terms of his power and authority. So is your boss. So is a policeman. So is a teacher. When you are talking to a policeman or sitting in a classroom or listening to a speech, yes, there is a certain order of things and no, you are not in an equal position with them. You don't wait for the policeman or teacher to prove he/she deserves respect as an individual. What do you want to do, give the cop a personal interview during your traffic stop?

    Your idea is absurd, and you just don't know yourself if you think you do not respect anyone's job title or social position.
     
  14. tallanvor

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    learn to read. I said you don't respect someone simply because of the position they hold. you respect them for other reasons. You argued the president should be respected because hes the president which is how other countries treat royalty.
     
  15. bigtexxx

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    lol Obama has been a complete disaster. He can't work with others, has left a foreign policy in complete shambles and wrecked our insurance system. He's been riding the fed's historically low interest rates and that bubble is about to pop, also. He's been a total bust
     
  16. sirbaihu

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    You have the reading problem. You said what you said and I said we do respect someone simply because of the position they hold. You respect a policeman because he/she is a policeman, not because you happen to have personal knowledge of his character and approve of it. You respect your boss because he/she is your boss. You STFU during a sermon because that is what you're supposed to do when someone is giving a sermon, not because you personally approve of the person speaking.
     
  17. tallanvor

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    you shouldn't. for all you know, they are doing it for the paycheck.

    wrong again. respect is earned. what has your boss done to earn your respect? be your boss? that's stupid.

    you do this so others can hear. Respect got nothing to do with it.

    what did i misread?

    IF you are just throwing around your respect because of job positions then your respect aint worth ****.
     
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    Let's see.... so far you have said "**** the President" and have claimed that Russia is not our enemy.

    You don't seem like much of an American.
     
  19. fadeaway

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    Hardly even post in this forum, but for the love of god, please please please please please do not elect Donald Trump to be your president. Frig sakes...
     
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  20. sirbaihu

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    Good luck with not respecting the policeman. Be sure to record the encounter on cell phone and post it here!

    Yes, I do respect my boss no matter what, because I have a real job that I want to keep.

    When "you do this so others can hear," you are respecting "others" for no reason except the position they are in as audience members, goofus.

    Let's be honest: you don't have a job in which you need to respect anyone or anyone needs to respect you. Prove I'm wrong. What's your job?

    You're just not thinking clearly if you think people should not and do not automatically respect total strangers for various reasons including profession and social situation.
     

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