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American Institutions are weakening into Banana Republic

Discussion in 'BBS Hangout: Debate & Discussion' started by Sweet Lou 4 2, Nov 5, 2016.

  1. Sweet Lou 4 2

    Sweet Lou 4 2 Member

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    America is moving ever more quickly and alarmingly toward Banana Republican-ism. This might sound melodramatic or an exaggeration, but it’s not. Just consider for a second what’s happened in the past week.

    New polling suggests that the presidential election has tightened. Why? In large measure, because FBI Director James Comey sent a letter to Congress insinuating potential wrongdoing by Hillary Clinton in regard to her private e-mail server. This was done in direct violation of longstanding Department of Justice rules against releasing information that could cast undue suspicion on a political candidate 60 days before an election.

    But there’s even worse. We know, according to US intelligence agencies, that the Russian government is actively seeking to interfere in a US presidential election. Astoundingly, they are being cheered along by the Republican party and its presidential nominee, both of whom are using e-mails hacked by the Russian government and leaked by WikiLeaks to attack Clinton.

    Just imagine for a second what were to happen if Trump were to win, in part, because of the involvement of a foreign government hostile to the United States and the FBI’s direct meddling in a US presidential election? How would Americans, particularly Democratic voters, retain any confidence in the nation’s governing institutions and its political leaders if Trump were to become president under these circumstances? For all the talk about an allegedly rigged election, this would be the ultimate example.

    And what if Clinton wins? Democracy is likely to find itself under continued assault. Republicans in the Senate are now making clear that they have no intention of even allowing a vote on a Supreme Court justice pick made by Hillary Clinton. The GOP has gone from saying they won’t allow a vote on Merrick Garland before this election to saying they won’t fill a vacancy on the Supreme Court until a Republican is in the White House. Some Republicans are floating the idea of impeaching Clinton before she’s even been elected president. Others are talking about trying her for treason and executing her. These are stunning, never before seen attacks on our democracy. And, increasingly, they are barely getting covered by major media news outlets, which seem more inclined to chase their own tails on the Clinton e-mail story.

    I’m not sure what more evidence one needs to see that we have entered a very dark and dangerous place in this country, in which one political party has now repeatedly demonstrated that it has no interest in maintaining even a fig leaf of adherence to long-standing political norms or ensuring the functioning of democratic governance.

    If you’re not scared to death about what’s happening in America right now, you’re not paying attention. Like no other time in modern history, this country and its most basic political institutions are at risk. And like no other time in history, the will of the American people is the only thing standing in the way of a dark and undemocratic future for this country.

    http://www.bostonglobe.com/opinion/...ublican-ism/Zot4mxyKBmx7G61ia4chVI/story.html
     
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  2. bingsha10

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    Nothing has changed. People just know about it now.
     
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  3. Dubious

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    No, the rhetoric has changed, mass media has given a voice to the forces of misinformation and hate for the sake of profit. It's always been the seemly underbelly, like all night AM talk shows, but now bias, willful ignorance and unabashed lying are being exploited on a scale that makes it seem valid. Fox news created the movement to capture a niche audience, but like all profitable ventures the hucksters have moved in to mass marketing to suck every dollar out. And like all boom markets it will boom til it busts. Soon there will be so many providers like Trump TV there won't be enough profit in it for anyone.
     
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  4. FranchiseBlade

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    Mainstream media gives voice to huge amounts of misinformation for some of the same reasons. Sometimes they do it in an effort to show that they aren't biased. So they will let people spew misinformation in an effort to point out what one side is doing. The problem is that when something is misinformation no matter which side says it, it doesn't deserve equal coverage. Sometimes when the right wing media comes out with the misinformation and it gains traction, main stream media doesn't want to be scooped, or miss out on a big story, so they cover it as well.
     
  5. Sweet Lou 4 2

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    It's not the mainstream media - it's that you have all the alt-right media sources spreading misinformation and google and social media is making them accessible. It's radio and such. This is rich people creating faux reality news that people are consuming.

    It's the nut-wing media that is driving all of this. When the FBI wants to investigate Clinton based on Clinton Cash which has been debunked as propaganda you know things are heading into the toilet.
     
  6. Bobbythegreat

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    So....what you have a problem with is the FBI director being forced to write a letter about evidence of wrongdoing that was discovered by members of the FBI who were angry about him giving her a pass when they uncovered evidence that she broke the law? You aren't upset about Hillary using political power to avoid indictment though right?

    Also you are upset that congress suggested that they would withhold their consent if Hillary doesn't nominate a SCOTUS justice that they could approve of?

    You are further upset that people would suggest that they would impeach a president that is guilty of crimes that would bar a person from ever holding government office in the first place?

    I mean, I get being worried that either Trump or Hillary are going to win the presidency. It's absolutely awful that one of those 2 bottom of the barrel complete jokes of candidates are going to win but don't you think you are getting upset about the wrong things? Do your best to see past the partisanship that blinds you.
     
  7. Hustle Town

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    I don't think you understand what a banana republic is, OP.
     
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    The Russian theory hasn't even been confirmed yet. Wikileaks is on record saying they are not apart of this.

    Why are so many people misinformed. It's just insane that people don't take the time to do their own research. I have time to do it, yet I work 70-80 hours a week.

    Just freaking read instead of dishing out this
    MSM Propaganda.
     
  9. Bobbythegreat

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    Because they want to be that way.
     
  10. glynch

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    American Institutions are weakening into Banana Republic

    That is just the way most of the billionaire class and those of them who own the media want it.

    Banana Republics and their citizens are easier to manipulate to their advantage.
     

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