Why do you rarely see mixed couples where the guy is of Asian descent?

How do YOU know I am not one of the guys at the club with all the other Asians? You caught on to us though. Good job. I know we are just ruining your whole experience by bringing our foreign languages and strange ways around you. We purposely go to different clubs to close them down you know. My asian friends can't get any girls other than other asians so we have to travel in groups. Oh and one more thing, they are really all Chinese, that's why you can't tell them apart. It's a conspiracy to confuse everybody. Oh and my wife wanted to let you know that all Asians are stereotypically bad drivers because her eyes are already 3/4 shut. (Her words not mine.)

I'm married to an Asian, I have RELATIVES of nearly every race, I have talked INTELLIGENTLY about race with nearly every racial nd religious group because they are my family and life long friends. My specialization in college was international relations, specifically east asian, but yes, you have me pegged I am AFRAID to talk about race.

I am NOT the one who used terms like "scout team" and "converge and swarm". You did. Do you use the same terms when you see black people move into your neighborhood? Are minorities "killing" your community too? I am not ignorant to these "facts" that you speak of. I am ignorant of your PERCEPTIONS because I do not share in your fear of other cultures.

 

That's just the way it is in America. I'm not saying its right, far form it, but it's generally more acceptable to make fun of Asians than African Americans. Just look at the Shaq quote on Yao around a year ago. It took several months and an article on Asian Week for the quote to receive attention but if Yao said something like that to Shaq you can bet the NAACP would be all over him as soon as it's said. There's also the instance of Sarah Silverman saying the word "chink" in one her jokes on Late Night. You can be sure that she would have never say the n word instead. Then there's the golfer Fuzzy who made fun of Tiger Woods African American heritage when he won the master a few years back. If Fuzzy made a joke on Tiger's Asian heritage I'm pretty sure there wouldn't have been half as much attention as there was.

 

Ok now you're just being ridiculous. I stated that I don't have any problem with asians. Then you go off characterizing me as buying into every possibly negative asian stereotype. Get a grip, pal. I also was NOT the person who used the words "converge and swarm" or "scout team", but rather I've heard those words said before. Pls go back and reread my post. Thaaaaanks. I'll accept your apology in advance.

 

YoYao scared them all off.

 

It's not just me that see this in clubs. Just because you don't like that notion that it happens, doesn't mean it's not actually happening. You either have tunnel vision or happily oblivious to the fact.

The people I know in the club scene have said the clubs tried to curb this by limiting the number of asians into a club, but there was a lawsuit about that.

And if it makes you feel any better, my friends and coworkers also said they avoid clubs that are overtly too black, comparing it to the asian invasion. Again, may not be right, but people aren't going to hang around where they feel uncomfortable.

 

According to you Asians kill clubs. You stated that as a FACT. Just because someone else said the invasion crack didn't mean you didn't agree with it did it? I would say you have a problem when you see a group of Asians hit the door.

The stereotypes I listed that were so over the top. That, my friend is called satire. You went to Rice I figured that you could recognize sarcasm when you saw it. I never you that you believe all of them.

Apologies, please. Don't hold your breath.

 

OK, stay away. From the sound of it you and your friends and co-workers would make us uncomfortable too.

Plus you probably wouldn't hear your favorite Conway Twitty song there anyway.

 

Let me step in and offer the voice of reason in this debate. I don't think you will find many arguments with the sociological theory that people tend to associate with others with whom they have things in common. Some of the most segregated social scenes in America include churches, community centers, and bars. Clearly, people who think alike and share a common set of values tend to migrate towards one another. This is not a product of racism, but a product of human nature. It is more stimulating to have activities to share and to have intelligent conversation about topics that are relevant to both parties. With this in mind, I find it difficult to refer to it as 'racism' when a group of like-minded individuals choose not to intermingle with others with whom they do not share much in common. If race happens to be the involved, it may seem to the third party observer that this is the underlying issue, when in fact it can be explained away by the social interaction theory above. Bars in Houston are not ignorant to this phenomenon. They seek to create a target environment for their product. They seek to brand themselves in a certain fashion. When their business model and/or product image is threatened, they, as proprietors, have the right to manage the situation. It is a shame for an enterprising young man to pour his nest egg into an establishment, only to have his business snatched away from him by threats to his product. There is no denying the racial migration that occurs at bars and clubs in Houston. Regardless of the reasons underlying this movement, the movement itself brings with it strong financial implications. Bar owners deserve the right, and need to have the courage, to stave off these threats to their businesses without the political-correct police attempting to condemn them on racial discrimination charges.

 

Trader,

You're basically right, but when you start to throw in the "political correct-police comments" I just have trouble giving you credit. There is no need for that because in relation to the club scene, there is no evidence of that. No groups are calling for boycotts of clubs because they cater to the country and western crowd. That is just a flat out lie and you weaken your post that I think makes a great point by adding your political views which simply do not apply here.

Maybe I'm just naive, but can you give even one example in which some club was threatened because of the crowd it catered to.

 

I know its not "PC" to say so but this is a damn annoying problem. This is not based on race, but the behavior of the
'Asian Gangsta's'. They'll show up in groups of twenty and just try to get into fights with people. Its like a 10 guys to every girl ratio in their group and they don't dance or smile. They seem to just wait to find a big corner so they can all smoke and gaze at people waiting for a brawl.

Its pretty annoying to be quite honest and many a great bars have been shut down based on this. Roxy (years ago!) was sued by a group for singling out Asians. I remeber about 7 years ago when Spy first opened it was a happening place. I remember being in line and them letting me in and then the group of Orientals behind me were not let in due to being younger than 25, though I was like 19!! Then one guy was 27 and dressed nice, but they told him he wasn't dressed well enough.

I don't like those tactics, but as a business you have a right to maintain the quality of your business and when you have people showing up with 10 to 1 guy to girl ratios, that fill up the corners and try to prove how tough and bad ass they are, it ruins the environment.

 

So the problem is with people that show up looking for trouble, right? Not with Asians per se...

If that's the case, it's not only racist to attribute the problem to Asians, it's inaccurate, or at least incomplete. Why not say talk about trouble makers, or gangsters? Why condemn a whole group for the actions of a few?

 

Correction...I probably wouldn't hear alt rock, classic rock, tejano, rave, or dance music there. Let me know if I'm wrong. Sorry if the thought of everyday business professionals makes you feel uncomfortable.

 

You can tell a Pho resturaunt is on the outs when there is more white people than asian people there. They come in and have no idea what to order. They stare at other people's food and ask what they are eating. Man, its annoying...we can't even eat at our favorite resturaunts anymore.

 

strange... the asian groups i generally hang out with have way more women than men... but then again, we don't usually go clubbing. i guess that must be where the rest of guys all go...

 

The problem is that asians who don't congregate with the 'troublemakers' still get stigmatized and pigeonholed.

Get revenge...start going to Golden Corral.

 

Oh boy.

If somebody said something about a "Black Invasion", Timing and pgabriel would have been calling for their banning immediately. But if it's Asian, it's a joke and open to discourse.

You know what I don't like though? Lot's of black people coming to my local movie theater that is about a block or two from my house. They are loud, and disruptive. They sleep, snore, talk on the cell phone, and talk at the movie screen. It's not just a stereotype, because it's happened the last 50 times I've been to a movie. I might have to change movie theaters because of it.

Is that similar to the Asian invasion?

 

You tell em jwun! Here's a clue, if you don't know a Pho Tai Nam from a Cafe Sua Da, ask an Asian friend to take you. You're slowing up my order.