EXACTLY !!!! The Arabic world used to be the cradle of civilization, too bad they stopped evolving socially as well...... Once alternative fuels are readily available, watch them crumble like the house of cards they are..... DD
I find a great deal of irony and hypocrisy in the far religious right wanting the US to become more of a Christian theocracy, while decrying other countries doing the same thing but with the "wrong" religion.
People always want power No Worries and the Christian leaders are no different. It is just a good thing that they are kept in check by our constitution...... Too bad the Muslim world doesn't do the same thing... DD
it's interesting...it seems to me that most of what we look at as Christians assuming power in government is symbolic...like ten commandments monuments in the courthouse...but i'm not sure we see tons of legislation asking us to codify the laws given to the Israelites in Deuteronomy...that, to me, is theocracy. i'm not saying that i think those who are arguing for more ten commandments monuments in the courtroom (and similar symbolic movements) are right...to the contrary, i think they do a real disservice when people try to genuinely share their faith...and i think they make idols out of religious symbols, something that is warned against big time in the New Testament...but it seems strikingly different from places like Saudi Arabia where Muslim law is adopted from the Koran directly, codified and made the law of the land
BTW, school prayer is not symbolic. Banning abortions is not symbolic. Teaching creationism as science is not symbolic. The changes that are wanted by the far religious right has real teeth.
Good examples No Worries and FB. Also, laws regarding nudity. I always thought that our strict drug laws had some derivation from puritanical beliefs, but I wouldn't know how. Too bad there wasn't anything mentioned in the bible against assault weapons. j/k
Maybe if our government exports $10,000 worth of oil per citizen every year, is what I think you meant to say. It isn't hard to take care of 350,000 people. America has over 250,000,000 people. We are also a democracy, so most of our government revenue comes in the form of taxation. Our government doesn't have quite the export business going that Brunei has.
No Worries -- abortion is a Christian thing only??? i know people of all different faith backgrounds, including atheist, who aren't down with abortion...who think it's killing a human life or at least playing loose and fast with human life. Franchiseblade --- sodomy laws are gone now...but it's not like Christians stand alone on the idea that homosexuality is something they'd rather not see promoted. ask our muslim friends on the board about that as well. homosexual lifestyle isn't exactly thriving in the middle east.
seems to me you're taking every issue where Christians have vocally taken a stand and saying that they're promoting theocracy thereby...that's absurd...and a far cry from the real theocracies of the world. i've told you how i feel about abortion...and that i vote accordingly...but i'm not asking for a theocracy.
heck i know where they get their money. it's not called "shellfare" for nothing. all i'm trying to say is that muslim govts CAN be democratic, equitable, progressive, and look after the public good in the very same manner we aspire to. and some surpass us in terms of social programs, even though their income per capita is usually lower than us. true fundamentalist theocracies like the taliban and iran are the exception, rather than the rule, among islamic states. dadakota was claiming the opposite. that's all.
shoot if it was a man, he would be beaten too. im just saying if they break the law they are punished just like men
but the question was not if any country can rival USA's population vs economy. instead it was if any country can rival USA period. and lil proved him wrong
No he didn't.... What happens to all those people that are living on the government Tit when Oil is no longer used for energy? What happens when that money dries up?????? Muslim theocracies are the biggest joke of a government in history......... DD
No disagreements there. Any govt. that has a religious police that will arrest you for such socially menacing offenses against the Sharia like in Saudi Arabia as: 1. Apostasy from Islam (leave it and it's your ass, in other words) 2. allowing a woman to drive 3. allowing a woman out without male relatives 4. allowing a woman out of the house without her stupid berka 5. carrying a Bible 6. drinking alcohol 7. fornication Just read some of the idiocy perpetuated by these thugs. I guess Islam and rationality are to mutually exclusive things, especially with this story: Saudi police 'stopped' fire rescue Oh my God, a couple of logos might make some women want to drive, heavens to betsy! Saudi Religious Police Brand Two Logos As Blasphemous We can't have a newspaper that says anything but that Allah is great and so is the enforcement of these silly laws of man: Editor who fought Saudi religious zealots sacked I pray to my God that Muslims are not correct about things, because if they are, I would really hate Allah. He is a demented, perverse bully of a deity who sees humanity as nothing more than slaves. I mean, for chrissakes, the very name Islam means submission, as in submission to God!
i hate to pick a fight with you. but this is just unfair. you're picking out the extremist, reactionary fringe of islamic communities. how is that even remotely representative? we too have laws on decency. we too have laws on what can be deemed offensive. we too have bible-toting maniacs on capital hill. i think what we also fail to understand is that women's rights is a relatively new concept. america introduced women's suffrage only in 1920, and it was a pioneer at that. most roman catholic countries in europe and south america didn't introduce it until the end of WW2. and the rest of the world gradually followed in the times since. The Roman Catholic Church opposed suffrage because its leaders believed that suffrage would emancipate women and cause the breakup of the family. Sound familiar? so islam and muslim states is a bit behind in adapting to changing norms. it doesn't mean that they are incapable of change. if i may add, many muslim states HAVE granted women equal political rights. here you've listed three extreme examples, conducted by the equivalent of a morality gestapo. did you even notice that the articles were trying to highlight OPPOSITION among ordinary muslims against these rules? i give you two examples in return. man arrested for teaching dog hitler salute Supreme Court takes on church-state fight over Pledge of Allegiance and this is the best part! unbeknownst to you, Allah and the Christian god are one and the same. Call him by whatever name you choose, Yahweh, Jehovah, God, Allah, it's still the same entity that answered Moses at the Red Sea and gave Abraham the 10 commandments... I DARE you to go to your church and tell your pastor that god is "a demented, perverse bully of a deity who sees humanity as nothing more than slaves".
PROBLEMS OF HAVING SEX OUTSIDE MARRIAGE : 1 - PREGNANCY : most of girls in the world when they get pregnant they give up their children , they dont become responsible 4 that , so they give them 2 fuster home , where they raise them but when they grow up , they run away and become ( killers , rapeses , kidnappers , gangsters... etc ) . so these are so big problems 2 - UTRES CANCER i read a study like a year ago says that when they have sex with more than 4 guys , the possibility of getting this kind of cancer is highier 4 them than girls who dont do that . i really dont know how 2 explain this but i hope u understand . 3 - HIV dont need 2 explain , u all know it . 4 - GONNERRHEA ( or something like that cuz i dont know the name in english ) its something i guess males have when they do it a lot , and maybe girls . Now im gonna ask u the same question I asked Dakota , ( which he didn’t answer it and made him op the bottom of my shoe ) how about that ? a rapes who was left by his mum and dad , rapes and pains ( so much ) ur daughter/love/mum/sis and then kill her 2 hide the trace , will it be ok 4 u ? will u blame me by not agreeing with these parents ? or me whos agreeing with the safety of this whole world ( of course not the bad 1’s ) by AGREEING WITH GOD BY NOT HAVING SEX OUTSIDE MARRIAGE ? having sex outside marriage HAS a LOT to do with these large numbers of crimes in the western societies . now if u say she only hurts herself when she gets these diseases , I will ask you , is it ok to harm and hurt others? How many millions got raped by bastards ? how many millions got killed by them ? do you justify that for the parents lust ? IF U SAY ,( PUT A CONDOM ) , I WILL SAY : CONDOMS MIGHT BREAK , even though I NEVER HAD SEX B4 , AND I WONT TILL MARRIAGE , CUZ I DON’T WANNA BE A PART OF HURTING OTHERS AND ME FOR 10 MINUTES LUST. If you say she doesn’t have money to live , I will tell you .. Simply put these Islamic teachings together .. 1-(zakat) I don’t know what its called in English , but I will explain it , its not a duty 4 poor pple , ONLY for others , from each and every hundred dollars or pounds or any of the currencies of your country , give ( 2.5 ) dollars or any currency of your country . if everyone does that believe me there will be MUCH less prostitutes , less crimes , less patients and the world would’ve been a MUCH BETTER place . just imagin how many hundreds in a million .. A LOT BETTER WORLD 2-don’t have sex outside marriage - the number of crimes will be less - the number of a lot of these diseases patients will be less look @ the middle east , the crimes in her are WAYYYYYYY less than the U.S
brother … there is a thread in this forum about stoning , if u read it , u will see that Dakota still DIDNT answer 2 of my questions , and the funny thing about it IS HE KEEPS ASKING US TO USE COMMON SENSE!!!!!LOL u will also see that.. mleahy , bama , jackie and myco MADE COMPLETE FOOLS OUT OF THEMSELVES but I also said , I think I shud get a long with their foolishness , but then I said no , if they are doin this 2 themselves , let them , I either ignore or reply 2 show the FUNNY way of makin themselves fools .lol any way brother , what are the meanings of “theocracies” , “sodomy” , “symbolic” “thriving” “I find a great deal of irony and hypocrisy in the far religious right wanting the US to become more of a Christian theocracy, while decrying other countries doing the same thing but with the "wrong" religion.” ? “ Commonplace occurrences”( I didn’t read this in this thread im just askin ) ? thank you dear brother… hope im not bothering u brother
