Big 12 Expansion rumors

Yup. Agreed. The Big 12 is so silly and warped.

 

Either Big12 lets Houston in or someone else will. Either way Houston will keep a lot of Houston recruits right here in Houston. The Big 12 needs Houston more than they want them. Houston has to much going their way to be ignored this time.

 

I don't get UH fan still crying about the Big 12. They don't want you, yet they're not all that. Start lobbying to move somewhere else so you can PUNISH that **** conference. If Nebraska wants out, go to the Big 10. I'm tired of hearing about the Big 12 acting like it's still cool and UH fan playing into it.

 

UH will get into a major conference in the next few years. The issue with the Big XII is one of timing. UH is spending heavily on athletics, trying to keep one of the best coaches in the country and keeping Ferlitta interested... and at some point the dam breaks without being in a top conference.

For years I have felt the ACC makes the most sense. It is a major football conference and an up and coming conference. I don't think that the SEC will have much interest in UH. The PAC will but it isn't as good a fit as the ACC.

The Big XII is the preference if UH gets in. The school can always make a lateral move to the ACC at a later date.

We will just have to wait and see how it all plays out.

 

I still think the big 12 is in a much stronger position staying at 10 teams. They don't over commit before anyone understands the future. I said it before that you'll watch college football games on twitter, facebook and apple tv without a paid subscription to cable soon. We just don't know what we need to make up that conference to maximize value. The ACC deal that ESPN made is going to drive them to the point where they need to sell the company to Disney. ESPN is losing subscribers at an exponential rate.

Again, the thing that people omit when they say the SEC is "taking over" houston is that almost all of the top SEC games in Houston featured Alabama which is the most popular team in the country. All but 1 featured Alabama or A&M which should be the case. Until you have multiple games between teams in the SEC that don't either dominate the national landscape (meaning popularity in specifically Houston doesn't matter) or a local team (A&M) then the conference is not dominating the city.

Conference quality is cyclical and this year is one of the worst big 12 years in a while. There is no question about that but I have not seen any reasons why this particular drop is a forever deal. For what it's worth, Sagarin has the big 12 as the 5th best conference group out of 9 team groupings (conference divisions count as individual entities). This ranking puts the most strength on the middle core of the conference to rank the overall performance of the conference vs everyone else and less importance on the best and worst teams. However, many people judge a conference on the quality of the best teams and by that metric, the big 12 is 7th out of 9th. It's worse when you consider the big 12 is ranked as a whole with 10 teams instead of the other conference groups which are at 7. Last year, Sagarin had the big 12 at #3. http://sagarin.com/sports/cfsend.htm

The people making the decisions on conference expansion are not concerned with which in conference team gets what recruit. They care about the power, stability and financials of any conference changes. More teams could have had better Texas recruits if A&M was replaced with a non-texas team. Instead, a very successful TCU team which is based out of the biggest metro in Texas was invited. Dallas used to be one of the best recruiting pools for OU but it was a unanimous decision.

This most recent expansion push was a very very rash response to the ACC deal which happened at a media week and was led by an AD that consistently speaks without thinking and a Conference commissioner that stumbled his way through a press conference. Ask yourselves, if adding UH and the other teams is so good for the big 12 then why don't the big 12 media partners want it to happen? It seems clear that the extra 50 million a year that they will have to pay the big 12 for adding teams is not going to get recouped in TV value. The last 6 or so teams to join a major conference have come from states that did not previously have a team in that conference.

Would UH going to the ACC hurt the big 12? Sure. But it's a cost/benefit analysis them going to another conference does not outweigh a relatively small gain in TV market value and filling up a spot in the conference when they don't even know if that is in the best interest for the conference since people don't even understand the future of media rights.

You guys are obsessed with a Yes/No evaluation when it should be a question of extent. UH getting into the big 12 will not stop anyone from watching Alabama and Texas A&M in Houston.

 

It's pretty clear that the Big 12 is scared of UH and they only want to add teams that suck to make the scrub schools already in the Big 12 look better. It could end up being the best thing for UH because they are the hottest team in the country not in a P5 conference and they play in a big market....an offer will come and of the P5 conferences, the Big 12 is by far the weakest. Joining them would be similar to joining the Big East, sounds great till you realize it's about to collapse.

 

This is silly. Like Nook said, timing is an issue. Fertita straight up came out and said they cannot sustain their spending right now. P5 money, even if it's just for 1 or 2 years would be exponentially better for them than not getting in, no matter which way you look at it. In this case, it would be at least for the next 10 years.

 

So yall are propping up Barry ****ing Switzer as the voice of reason? That is what's happening, right?

I just want to make sure.

 

Big 12 expansion appear unlikely

Big 12 expansion may be 'delayed' as many 'have no idea what will happen'

 

More quality bumbling leadership by this conference.

 

Maybe if the Coogs wouldn't have lost to Navy they would have still had a shot?

 

If this was just a negotiation tactic at the expense of hopeful schools...geez.

 

It's not - you're giving the B12 way too much credit. It's just incompetence - there's is no larger vision for the league and all the schools are just on their own page doing their own thing. It's the one thing that has defined this conference from day 1.

 

M l t l for Big 12 president! Too bad it isn't a democratic election.

 

Put Houston in and make Fertita President of the Big 12. He owns the Golden Nugget. All the Big 12 meetings could be held in the casino. Get everybody drunk and after a fun filled weekend they will make good deals. Because videos will be made of the lost weekend in Louisana.

 

Good idea. He also owns the Golden Nugget in Vegas, which, as a city, is much more fun than Lake Charles.