There has to be something more, otherwise she should've released them instead of giving Bernie and other people fire.
We agree. Sometimes you have to have a public face as well as private face. We have all had to lie at times. It's an unfortunate part of the job as Secretary Clinton noted. Sincerely, George Washington, John Adams, Thomas Jefferson, James Madison, James Monroe, John Quincy Adams, Andrew Jackson, Martin Van Buren, William Henry Harrison (although with 30 days in office, I hardly had time to lie, much less do anything else), John Tyler, James Polk, Zachary Taylor, Millard Fillmore, Franklin Pierce, James Buchanan, Abraham Lincoln, Andrew Johnson, Ulysses S. Grant, Rutherford Hayes, James Garfield, Chester Arthur, Grover Cleveland (two separate times, baby!), Benjamin Harrison, William McKinley, Theodore Roosevelt, William Taft, Woodrow Wilson, Warren Harding, Calvin Coolidge, Herbert Hoover, Franklin Roosevelt, Harry Truman, Dwight Eisenhower, John F. Kennedy, Lyndon Johnson, Richard Nixon, Gerald Ford, Jimmy Carter, Ronald Reagan, George H.W. Bush, Bill Clinton, George W. Bush, and Barack Obama.
My residence has mostly been in TX or California. A lot of my colleagues leaned more Bernie, but the whole SCOTUS balance for the next 3 seats means a lot. I'd practically vote solely on any mention of Citizens United and am extremely grateful for Sanders pulling out that promise from her.
I think this would look a lot worse during the primaries because Bernie was campaigning on a platform of democratic socialism instead of globalist capitalism like Hillary.
I think her saying that she has to spin stories one way in public even though in private she feels differently is an admission of and shows a willingness to be dishonest.
No, you don't want to set the precedent of having to release let alone record and archive every damn remark you make to everyone everywhere. We've prudently elected officials before without having that level of access.
It shows an appreciation for the unrealistic expectations of several individuals and factions of the electorate, and the capacity for others to misinterpret comments or interactions based on preconceived notions, underlying partisan allegiances or categorical vilification of certain subsectors of the economy or society (teachers' unions, "Big" whatever industry, et al).
Fair enough. If you're already convinced of her dishonesty I guess you could see it that way although that's not quite what she said. I read it as an acknowledgement that sometimes you have to deal, and you don't show all your cards at the beginning of the game. Given her audience and that one of her strengths is supposed to be pragmatism and the ability to backroom deal, I don't find it a damning statement. Luckily I know despite your bold talk, if your state was in play you'd be pulling the lever for Hillary so all is good .
I am surprised how damned intelligent and pragmatic these are, even where I disagree with her (on minor quibbles). She does not seem to have lost a step, in her cranium at least. And I can see why she didn't want these out in the primary.
Wait. OP posted the original speeches thinking there would be something damaging??? C'mon people, she didnt even write the speeches. Of course there is nothing damaging. Michelle Obama made better speeches and she did not make anything on them. Zig Ziglar, motivation speaker, can make 50k per speech. Clintons? Average of $250,000 a speech Why must people question why we have two of the worst candidates running for president? The worst candidate is completely unelectable and despicable. The other one has been paid 22M into her own personal bank account (not into her foundations or campaign mind you) by special interest groups. Do you REALLY want her as president?? If you guys can't see how corrupt the DNC has become ...
And pull 250k to say it in front of a crowd whom most should be, by all rights, in jail post -08. It's gonna be a helluva next 4 years and midterms for the Lannisters to dig out of.
Well, considering this was the first statement in the OP's post: Well, I don't know about you all, but what I see from these speeches is a thoughtful, intelligent candidate who is realistic. A few things I might object to, but no bombshells. I don't think I was posting as if there was something damaging.
Actually, yes, I really want her to be President. (1) there is no other alternative; (2) I have reasonable confidence, based on past history, that she can work with Republicans to get things done, (3) the markets will be stabilized, at least initially, if she is elected (and that is personally good for my business), (4) see #1.
I can respect that the options are very limited. What troubles me is that people think its fine that politicians are bought out by special interests. This is not a Republican vs Democrat thing. I would have voted Bernie over any politician in this election. You are completely naive if you think the Republicans are going to work with Hillary. Her own party is not fond of her. Unless she truly turns things around, everyone is going to stay away from her. She is toxic. While I do not think our economy is in the shitter, it is still fragile. All her of her agenda's are going to be business and middle class killers. Obamacare is not going to be fixed. You know you're naive when much of America dislikes Hillary but you still think she would make a good president.
So if Trump hired the same speech writer and he gave the same speech for 200k a pop, would you feel he was a rational smart president too?
No, it's not naivete when it's been done before. Hillary Clinton has worked with multiple Republicans before on legislation- I didn't say it was automatic, but there is a precedent. And what exactly does American popular opinion have to do with whether or not someone can do a good job?
You're actually wrong about her own party not being fond of her, either. Do you have statements to back this up? Because there are plenty of statements from Dems that respect and admire her- and before all this election nonsense, that would also include John McCain, Mitch McConnell, Chris Christie, Marco Rubio, and dozens of other Republicans.
