Too much Francis, not enough hustle, Rockets' coach says

Right now Steve is the best individual player, but now the best team player on Rockets. And you know basketball is a team game.
Don't buy into JVG's later explanation too much because that's politics. Use your own eyes to see who is hogging the ball,who is selfish.

 

MudMonkeys thats a funny name. Cool though.

 

choujie, thats the stupidest thing i ever heard. i never interpreted the first article as anything but jvg chastizing the team for breaking down and not working hard enough. but, by your brilliant comment, i could say:

srew the microbiologists, aids comes from fags! i know what i see!

to hell with the scientists, there are no atoms, your reading too much into that! i know what i feel!

the earth revolves around the sun?? those dipsh!t scientists and their theories! i know what i see!

 

Now, hang on a second folks - that's NOT what JVG said.

JVG said, "That wasn't on Steve", meaning he wasn't singling out Steve as the cause of all our problems. Buit that doesn't mean that Steve is a perfect player). It means that the entire team (including, but not limited to steve) is the problem, and the entire team needs to work. He also said that they're not even the fault of the players alone, but the coaching as well.

and he's right.

-- droxford

 

Yeah right, when your mom tells you "it's evening" at 8 clock in the moring, I bet you will believe that too ,cos you are so damn smart and your mom is always right.

Most people don't really have a clue about atoms and aids. But basketball is a different story. Most people here have watched basketball for many years, and a lot of them have played at different levels. They definitely can judge based on what they see on the court. JVG also metioned the plays were broken and the team played selfish. Who was the play maker and who was in charge of peremeter defense?

 

Im worried about JVG saying Steve is our best player. Thats BS. He is either lieing or stupid. Frankly my jaw dropped when I read that. I thought Ming was the only reason why JVG came here. If he thinks Steve is our best player because of more ppg than Ming then he is an idiot. Whats ironic is JVG preaches in the paper everyday about needing defense,better shooting,more team plays. Ming beats out Steve in all those categories. Im hoping its just a ploy tactic to try to befriend Steve. Maybe Jeff doesnt want to upset the Rocket fan base by trading Steve so soon. I guess if this team was to lose 10 straight Steve would still be an "untouchable" and Cat would probably be dealt. Ive notice I havent read a thing about CAt in the paper or from JVG's mouth.

 

In the games I watched, which I'm sure are the same games, Steve passed the ball off in the offense within a few seconds of crossing the half court line. The players are not getting open. As a matter of fact the only consistent chemistry I've seen is between Steve and Yao. Everyone else looks lost.

 

JVG has a lot more to gain calling Steve our best player than Yao. I'm pretty sure Yao doesn't give a crap if the coach says he's the best player, but Steve would probably demand a trade JVG didn't say that about him. There's got to be a political element to it.

The other bad thing about not moving the ball is that it makes the other players not play as hard. Offense is the "fun" part of basketball and when players don't get shots, they don't feel like they're going to be "rewarded" for hustle plays and defense. Team offense matters in a lot of different ways.

 

Yeah, I'm sure you know a lot more about the players than the head coach does

Steve led the team in almost every category, not just points. He has the most talent out of all of the Rockets players, no matter what the Yao-only fans want to believe.

 

lol...oooooooooooooooooook

did anyone catch that?

 

I someone is watching the same game I am.

Thanks Gab!

 

(sigh)
i find it amazing that choujie can actually try to say that a bunch of spectators,(a spectator is a spectator, no matter how much you think you know, you do not know their plays, what has been told to them by their coaches, or what its like to play in an nba game) actually KNOW, not speculate, but KNOW that the coach is lying, and that the truth is their unsubstantuated opinions.

and you miss the point of what i was saying, i was implying that your uneducated opinions does not change the word of experts. the expert (jvg) has stated over and over, that the team cannot rely soley on steve francis, he never said that stevie is doing anything wrong. but kids like you keep trying to fill in all these blanks that don't exhist.

if you want to play that stupid game of "what did he really mean" go ahead, but just stop trying to pass your ignorant opinions as reality. its just not.

 

Great article. Man, I hope other players start to hussle.

Right now it is only Stevie Franchise, MOochie , and wilks.

Wake up rockets, it's time to start playing. The offseason is over!

Ok...i can't get my hands dirty right now...time to go to class.
I'll be back...

 

mos-def, I totally agree with you that people are reading things in this situation that is not there. Picking one or two phrases out of context or spinning them just so that they can say stuff like: 'see I told you so' or 'just as I predicted'.

Anyway, as sjackson said, the reason for Steve going for the home run could be all sorts of reason - missed cuts, pick, bad calls by JVG or Steve's own faults as a player. In other words, it is the teams fault as well as the coach - pretty much what JVG said. You know, the guy that people has been talking up as someone that is not diplomatic, but in your face - a motherf-ing, motherf-er.

 

shut up

 

lol....i wanted to tell her/him , but I prayed first.

 

I found this amazing too. When did I say JVG is lying? You are playing the game of "what did I really mean" and at the same time accusing me of play the game of "what did he really mean"??? While other people are ignorant when they have different opinions, calling other people stupid is not ignorant???

All I said is use your eyes and judge from what you saw. JVG did say "there is little pocket of resistence", do you think Moochie has that power to be resistence? Give me a break! I fully understand JVG changed his tone later because he doesn't want to upset Francis too much at this point, and I actually think that's the right thing to do. But that doesn't mean I have to agree with whatever he says whithout even having a question mark. What's wrong with that?

I'd rather be a "stupid, ignorant spectator" who uses brain and eyes than be a "smart expert" who uses ears and mouth.

 

Seriouosly, I'm in complete AWE of Van Gundy.

I will hold short of calling him a genius until we actually see some results but what we are seeing is truly the work of a superior intellect. Sure he might not sound as intellectual as Phil Jackson, but the guy is CLEARLY manipulating the players minds to get them to commit to his agenda as if it was of their own freewill.

He is dealing with the egos masterfully, specially Francis. I was already a fan after last night, and now, Í'm true believer. He is challenging them in a way they certainly can understand, and unless they are the Tin Man of Oz or don't have blood pumping through their veins, they WILL respond.

Steve Francis WILL get it. I have faith. And we won't need to trade him short of the perfect trade (Francis+Griffin for J. O'Neal/Tinsley).

It seems that we have GREATLY underestimated JVG's smarts when we thought that he was simply burning the bridges between him and Francis for good. This is good. This is GREAT. Larry Brown certainly WOULDN'T be capable of dealing with the situation as he is dealing.

Simply put, we have the right coach for this team. And if it DOESN'T work, then it wouldn't work no matter who was in the driving seat.

If you ask me, I have a hunch it will. Let's wait and see.

 

Wait...and Francis proved that he CAN carry the franchise every night? Where has that gotten us? If not making the playoffs, leading your team to lottery paradise and only having to score 20+ ppg every night is what you call a "franchise player", then there are PLENTY of guys who can do that. Hell, even Mobley could do that if he was allowed to be the main guy.