What happened to intrigue/interest in this election?

The debates are going to make the Jerry Springer show look like a parade of sanity.

 

Boredom and complacency? Everyone has their mind made up already. At least I hope so.

 

I will help you get your mattress. Tell me which way to vote. I want to make a difference.

 

It will pick up after the debates and as more comes out about the doings of the Trump foundation.

Or if anything new and actually substantial comes out about Hillary's dishonesty, the interest in the election could also ramp up.

 

Is there a point of reality where more doesn't matter?

Nobody trusts or likes either of these candidates so I think at some point more is just more.

There are people that will vote for Hillary unless she dies of illness or is in jail and maybe even then.

There are people that will vote for Trump in a similar fashion.

I think this is exactly how the establishment wants it, they don't want us thinking for ourselves or looking at candidates that might be popular and driven enough to ACTUALLY change something.

I really don't know how the debates are going to make anyone care more or less. We have two bloated, steaming bags of feces spewing bile and vitriol everywhere and stinking up the place and I don't know if I can take much more of it.

 

Things that were once important and serious are not important anymore; they have been reduced to an embarrassing absurdity. The fact is the Presidency of the United States has been reduced to the level of bad reality TV. And the sadder fact is that this overwhelming ****fest distracts voters from the fact that their Congressmen are bought and sold, their government is run by lobbyist, the will and best interest of The People are being subverted for corporate profit.

The defense industry keeps overcharging and under delivering for massive weapons systems of dubious need.

The healthcare insurance industry subverted a rational single payer plan for the ACA to maintain the private insurance industry and then justified killing it off when it produced predictable losses.

The Carbon industry spends billions to shut down the growth of renewable energy when they absolutely know it is effecting climate change.

The Banking industry spends billions to fight off regulation while risking the country's financial health with high risk schemes but we can't get a single prosecution.

etc. etc. etc. and yet we have to listen to a complete moron say and do everything that belittles the gravitas of the office and still get 45% of the vote. And I'm not saying Ms. Clinton would address the issues above either but she is not a total embarrassment.

I wish to disassociate myself from this idiocracy.

 

You could be correct. I'm just basing it off of the Kardashian model. People still follow those morons and with them it's definitely just more. So I figured this election wouldn't be too different.

 

both candidates are total lying pieces of crap. one of them has the mentality, ego and intelligence (and hands) of a 12 year old boy and the other is doing everything she can to avoid having to talk to the media or discuss anything b/c she knows all she has to do is keep her arrogant, entitled, corrupt, lying mouth shut and she will coast to victory.

we deserve what we are getting right now.

 

Hillary

 

If the country would sack up and vote for anyone other than these two maybe we could change something.

Johnson will be on the ballot and Bernie is someone that maybe can be an alternative to Johnson?

 

That can't be it. Nothing focuses the mind like a hanging. When you see your doom approaching, you really can't help but be interested. So no, I think it's more fatigue of an intensely negative campaign season. People can't stay outraged for months on end. We need to take a little rest so we can sprint the last quarter-mile.

It seems like we're damned if we do and damned if we don't. Our Democratic primary was subject to capture because of too much voter inertia. The Republican primary was hijacked by voter hysteria. So, lack of involvement seems to be problematic, but voter engagement seems to have gone awry as well. Can't win.

 

I see what you are saying , but I think that voter participation doesn't have to mean voter hysteria . If more moderate republicans voted in the primaries perhaps trump would not be the nominee .

Frankly voters are the problem in multiple ways though . Especially low information voters . There are incentives to keep things the way they are though , so if people really want hangs and want to create a better system then it's going to require a lot of effort and even legislation.

Smart people have been realizing for ages that most people are stupid . Political parties just exacerbate the ****ty situation .

I think a lot of the lack of interest has to do with people realizing we are ****ed , but then realizing that life will go on and who the president is will probably not effect your life . Sure a catastrophe could happen , and maybe it is likely to happen if trump gets the win , but overall he is probably smart enough and other powerfully people that own him are probably smart enough to keep the status quo .

Sure there may be small changes , but people can find ways around it to create life as usual . There will always be an underground economy .

Going back to my first point , the only way to ever change this would be a massive voter participation spike and massive voter information improvement.

 

If you are in Texas, your vote won't help
(cause we are a state of igits)

 

True. Which is why I ask people to not vote. You are far more likely to die on your way to/from voting than your vote is to make a difference. So no need to put yourselves at risk for nothing.

 

For both Hillary and Trump, the answer is Yes. I'm more likely to vote for the one who dies. Democracy weeps.

 

It's literally one of the worst elections of all time. Two people who have nothing in common with what most Americans are, need and fear. One of the most untrustworthy candidates ever, and one of the most fascistic candidates in recent history.

2016 is a very important year in American history but not because of the election.

 

The ratings for the debates, election night coverage and even print reporting might single-handedly save the news industry. A&M might even bring back their journalism program.

 

Who cares about this election? We're ****ed either way.

 

i saw tremendous enthusiasm for sanders during the primary. the voter inertia was definitely more on the clinton side and we are now seeing that. maybe the DNC should not have been so blatantly in favor of clinton and worked so hard to sabotage the sanders campaign. it is one of the many reasons i would never support clinton. if democrats actually lose to trump it will be their own fault. they cheated sanders to put up someone who 50% of the country hates.

you can judge enthusiasm for a candidate on the amount of bumpers stickers you see driving around...there were definitely more obama and mccain bumper stickers in 2012 than we see for douche and turd this year. never have we had two more hated people running for president at the same time.