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KILL BILL.

Discussion in 'BBS Hangout' started by DanzelKun, Oct 11, 2003.

  1. mrpaige

    mrpaige Member

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    I'm glad this idea is catching on. I know that when I rip something off for one of my films, I have jokingly said something along these lines. I'm glad it's becomming a valid excuse.
     
  2. The Real Shady

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    That's a nice list and I do agree with you on all those movies but you do realize that Guy Ritchie copies Tarantino's style don't you? I haven't seen Kill Bill yet so I can't comment on it, but I don't see how you can like a movie like Snatch and not like Pulp Fiction or Resevior Dogs.
     
  3. Nomar

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    Guy Ritchie uses, say it with me class, subtlety.

    I don't think QT has even heard of the word.

    Snatch is also very funny, with a clever story line, and it doesn't bash your on the head with what it does.
     
  4. nbastar

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    At least you have a decent list but to call KB "Worst. Movie. Ever." and to discredit Tarantino show us that you don't like him because of the choice of movie that he directed and how he directing even if it's a good movie. Dude, your credential to making this movie sound like a bad movie have nothing to do with the movie but your taste and opinion since majority doesn't agree with you.
     
  5. Rocketman95

    Rocketman95 Hangout Boy

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    That's what Nomar gets for going to a movie when his favorite baseball team is playing its biggest rival in the ALCS. Hell, my girl wanted to go see Kill Bill tonight, but I refused because it's a Rockets' preseason game.
     
  6. Maynard

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    these 2 statements disqualify you from ever posting bout movies again


    Gladiator?

    that is on my top 5 list of worse/over hyped movies of all time..along with Unforgiven

    LOTR and "weren't very well done" in the same sentence shows just how clueless you are man



    :p
     
  7. Oski2005

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    Come on, the beginning of the movie says that it is "Presented in Shawscope." That is too blatant to just be ripping off.
     
  8. mrpaige

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    Every director has influences, and some directors rely on the tricks of their influences more than others. Spielberg is one of the worst at lifting shots/scenes directly from other movies he admired when he was younger. That doesn't make him a bad director by any stretch of the imagination.

    The thing is, though, that copping someone else's shots/scenes/what-have-you is a somewhat lazy way to approach directing. It's the "I couldn't think of anything better, so I'm going to take that shot from "The Good, the Bad and the Ugly and stick it in here. We'll call it an homage." method of working, and it can get to be annoying.

    If a movie is nothing more than a collection of references to other movies or pop culture icons or whatever, then it can cease to be entertaining in and of itself. If I've seen it all before, why do I need to see it again?

    The only thing that makes Quentin different than the average filmmaker is that he usually acknowledges his influences and what effect they've had on him as a filmmaker.

    In a way, it's almost the opposite of someone like Hitchcock. Hitch would take a situation and turn it completely upside down. A scene that in most movies would take place in a dark alley in the city, instead takes place in down a dusty deserted road in broad daylight. Most modern directors wouldn't bother trying to twist it to make it more original. They'd simply lift the bit from the previous film.

    But unless there's something new offered, then it's just a cinematic jerk-off. A pointless exercise.

    To Quentin's credit, I think he does usually offer something new that goes beyond his influences. Jackie Brown was certainly influenced by the Blaxploitation flicks to a degree, but it is anything but a Blaxploitation flick itself.

    Resevoir Dogs has several obvious influences from City on Fire to The Taking of Pelham One, Two, Three. But it's more than the sum of what it references.

    For all I know, Kill Bill does this, as well.

    But ripping stuff off is still ripping stuff off, even when you acknowledge that you've ripped it off.
     
  9. mrpaige

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    By the way, Kill Bill had the best opening weekend of any QT film. Of course, it opened on nearly three times as many screens as Pulp Fiction and Jackie Brown, but it did more than double those pictures' openings. The per screen average for the last three QT films have been roughly the same (about $7,000 per).

    Business did decline 3% from Friday to Saturday, an unusual event (by comparison, Intolerable Cruelty went up nearly 24% from Friday to Saturday).

    Kill Bill had the third best per screen average of the weekend, behind Mystic River and The Station Agent.

    Personally, I don't think it beats Pulp Fiction's box office take, but it'll easily beat Jackie Brown's.
     
  10. Nomar

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    I know right?

    Anyway Gladiator was amazing, and Ridley Scott is the greatest director alive so Maynard, you are wrong. Buddy.
     
  11. moestavern19

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    Gladiator was one of the best movies I have ever seen. The ending to that movie is truly something majestic.
     
  12. VesceySux

    VesceySux World Champion Lurker
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    Backpedal much? You went ON AND ON about how bad the LOTR movies were. Perhaps it was just the heat of the moment (as fanboys DO tend to rant rather emotionally), but damn, you bashed Peter Jackson and Co. back to the stone ages. Now you say they were "okay"?

    All the movies you listed are somewhat off the beaten path (with the exception of Gladiator and Godfather). It seems you like quirky movies (as do I, to a degree). I have a simple (fun) test for you: Which one of the two movies listed do you prefer?

    a) Saving Private Ryan
    b) The Thin Red Line

    a) Armageddon
    b) Deep Impact

    a) Minority Report
    b) Blade Runner

    a) Goldfinger
    b) GoldenEye

    a) Return of the Jedi
    b) Attack of the Clones

    a) The Terminator
    b) Total Recall

    a) Pulp Fiction
    b) Reservoir Dogs

    a) Steel Magnolias
    b) Fried Green Tomatoes

    a) Shrek
    b) Monsters, Inc.

    a) Caddyshack
    b) Happy Gilmore


    Take your time with this quiz. Everyone can join in!
     
  13. Nomar

    Nomar Member

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    I agree, I backpedal on LOTR. If you go back and check the threads, I actually raved about the first one. I liked it as the opening act of the trilogy. However, the second totally dissapointed and I began bashing Jackson. Regardless of how much he butchered them, they are huge budget epic films with the story already being fantastic. So it was never going to be "bad". Just not what I expected.

    Vescey - I do like some quirky movies, i was just running down my own DVD collection for various movies of different types so I also like big epic movies as well, and some Hollywood movies.

    Test:

    1. Haven't seen either, but I've heard Private Ryan is amazing.

    2. Only seen Armageddon, liked it, but it was a bad movie.

    3. Blade Runner without a doubt. It is in my top 5 movies of all time, and when I finally saw it not too long ago convinced me of Ridley Scott's genius.

    4. I don't remember Goldfinger, but I enjoyed GoldenEye.

    5. Return of the Jedi: It's my favorite of all the Star Wars flicks.

    6. Total Recall no doubt. But they are both kind of bad movies. Just saw T2 recently, very good effects and what not, but not all its cracked up to be.

    7. No comment. ;)

    8. Haven't seen these.

    9. Haven't seen these.

    10. Caddyshack.
     
  14. Deckard

    Deckard Blade Runner
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    Thought I would have fun with the "quiz". Haven't see "Kill Bill" yet, but I'm going to.

    1.
    a.- Loved it the first time I saw it, but liked it less and less with repeated viewing.
    (and I'm a big WWII movie fan... watch "Battleground" sometime)
    b.- ditto

    2.
    a.- "Armageddon" is funny.
    b.- "Deep Impact" is not.

    3.
    a.- "Blade Runner" is the finest SF movie ever made and one of the best movies, period. Hell, it is the best movie ever made. (I can't help myself)
    b.- I enjoyed "Minority Report". It grows on me.

    4.
    a.- "Goldfinger".
    b.- You're kidding, right?

    5. "Jedi" is better, but doesn't compare to "Empire" (the best) and "Star Wars".

    6.
    a.- "The Terminator".
    b.- I really enjoyed it.

    7. "Pulp Fiction"... one of my favorite movies and one of the best ever.

    8. What??

    9. My kids liked both and they were fun to watch. Loved the exploding bird.

    10. "Caddyshack"... one of the funniest movies I've seen.



    And, for what it's worth, I thought "Fellowship" was a great movie and was very disappointed with "The Two Towers". I'm hoping the director's cut is much better, but they shouldn't have had the stupid Elves at Helm's Deep. A sacrilege.
     
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    You said you thought Jerry Bruckheimer should have done the Lord of the Rings trilogy, did you not?
     
  16. Nomar

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    I sure didn't.

    I actually dislike the Bruckheimer/Bay team on most things, except for The Rock.

    I would rather have Ridley Scott or Steven Spielberg do LOTR.
     
  17. Oski2005

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    A Ridley Scott fan who didn't mention Alien?
     
  18. Maynard

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    I just plain didn't enjoy Gladiator. I thought the story was weak, the dialoge boring and drab, and the whole thing to be just one big piece of over dramatized fluff.

    I liked Alien and Blade Runner. but besides those 2 films, I don't really like any other of Scott's films. In fact, a few of his films I would rate of some of the worse films I've ever seen.

    White Squall
    1492
    Hannibal
    G I Jane

    Now I heard Matchstick Men is good, but I haven't seen it.



    :D
     
  19. Rocket River

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    Hell the unmasking Scene was great to me
    The lil speech he gives is amazing and powerful

    I WILL HAVE MY REVENGE IN THIS WORLD OR THE NEXT

    I like d it because the special effects were integrated into normal stuff
    not unlike Twister .. .rather than EXTRAORDINARY things or Space scapes etc

    Rocket River
     
  20. tacoma park legend

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    I liked the soundtrack better than the movie...let's put it at that.
     

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