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Police shoot a man in Baton Rouge, LA.

Discussion in 'BBS Hangout: Debate & Discussion' started by Mr.Scarface, Jul 5, 2016.

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  1. amaru

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    Yea okay :rolleyes:
     
  2. Bobbythegreat

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    If you disagree, try your best to intelligently explain why you disagree.
     
  3. jsingles

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    No, you don't. If you had the intellect to know what it was, you would know it's not murder. Even now, with ample time to do a quick search to find out what the word 'murder' even means, you still don't know.
     
  4. amaru

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    I've come to the conclusion that you aren't worth the time it would take to respond. :rolleyes:
     
  5. amaru

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    K :rolleyes:
     
  6. Bobbythegreat

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    Fair enough, I'll take that as you admitting that you have no intelligent disagreement....kind of what I thought.
     
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    You don't know what happened before that. You say he was resisting because you are biased and are searching for excuses to blame the victim. It's common to blame the victim - happens with rape cases all the time. "They must of done something wrong to justify the action"

    In this case - "they must have resisted otherwise the police wouldn't have shot him" shows a bias that police can never do wrong.
     
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    This isn't what people want to hear, but it's time for some straight talk. Police are repeatedly exposed to black men committing crimes. Over and over and over. The crime rate statistics for this group is shockingly high. Popular culture promotes disrespect for the police and creating a 'hard image', both of which create antagonistic relationships towards the police. The root of this problem is not racism by the police. What most see as racism by the police, is actually a very human response to repeated exposure to crime by black men.

    The media and this Administration's preferred narrative is that the police are racist and there is a problem. Statistics would show that these shootings are isolated events and not representative of a broader trend. But what of the root causes? The man of the house not being present to raise kids, unemployment rates for black youth being over 50%, and low levels of education are the true culprits here. People that have nothing to lose commit crimes, this in turn influences how policemen treat these people. It's a vicious circle.

    Today's culture says that everyone is a victim and no one is responsible for anything. True accountability is what is required to turn around these high crime areas to start to turn the tide on what is a national crisis for black men.


    TIME FOR TRUTH
     
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    The guy had a history of resisting arrest and was facing 10 years hard labor at a minimum....and someone that was in prison and had been arrested as many times as he had knows the drill. He's been cuffed dozens of times in his life minimum. The fact that cops ended up having to use a taser on him and were wrestling with him on the ground strongly suggests that this guy who knew the drill when it comes to being cuffed was resisting arrest.

    It would take some serious mental gymnastics to not come to that conclusion based on what is known.
     
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    I did not see anything about him having that much trouble with the law and prior resisting arrest. Would you share your source kindly?

    Regardless, every situation is unique. To judge what happened based on that without actually knowing seems biased to me.
     
  11. Bobbythegreat

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    Do a google search, I've already posted links in this thread. The guy was a sex offender with a warrant out for his arrest due to not registering after moving, he previously was arrested for a few assault charges and a domestic violence charge. He also got popped selling weed while carrying a gun and he went away for a few years on that one. He also had some kind of weird theft type conviction. He was no stranger to breaking the law and getting arrested for it.
     
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    Well I don't have time right now.

    So you are saying that cops knew his record beforehand, and because of that are justified in shooting him for those reasons?
     
  13. Bobbythegreat

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    No, I'm saying that based on his history, he's someone that is no stranger to being arrested so it's not like he didn't know what the cops wanted from him. Also, he was someone with a history of resisting arrest and he had plenty of reason to resist arrest because he was looking at a minimum of 10 years hard labor for carrying that handgun.

    I'm just saying that he was armed and resisting arrest and during the time he was resisting arrest the cops thought he was reaching for his gun so they shot him. If another video surfaces that eliminates that from being possible, then I'm all for charging the cops with some kind of manslaughter. The problem is when someone is armed and resisting arrest, it's super hard to get ANY charge to stick.
     
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    Wait what??!! You think that this clash is a recent issue. My goodness it is like history is lost on some. Why do you think there have been issues between blacks and the police. Just in our life time the police were the occupational force used to oppress blacks. Look at all the arrests, beating of peaceful protesters during civil rights era. You wonder why blacks don't trust cops. If they were beat for their rights, what makes you think they are going to instill in their children to love and trust cops.
     
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    You can see that Sterling brings his arm up and shows his palm to the officer but the officer grabs it and pulls it down - you have to watch many times and slow it down to see it.
     
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    That's not a rational explanation for what is happening. As many times as he's been arrested, he knows what the cop wants from him and that's control over his hands so he can be put in cuffs. ANYTHING else is wrong. Putting your hands up is what you'd need to do well before you get to the point where you are tasered and are wrestling around on the ground with cops.
     
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    Explanation? - you can see him do it in the video. He is showing his palms to the officers.
     
  18. Bandwagoner

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    No time to look back through the thread for a link? Or just don't want to admit the guy was a dirtbag? You seem to have time to make more posts.

    All questions, no effort or independent thought.
     
  19. Bobbythegreat

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    Sure, you can try to say that's what he's doing, but someone who has been arrested as many times as he has knows that they don't want to see his palms, they want control over his arms in order to get them in cuffs so your explanation doesn't fit. Why would he be "showing them his palms" when he knows that's not what they want? If they are grabbing your arms and you are pulling away to "show them your palms", then you are wrong. Maybe a rookie makes that mistake, but not someone that did legit time in prison.
     
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    Keep attacking - hopefully it makes you feel like a real man.
     

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