David Cameron: Britain's EU Referendum to be held June 23

You are an idiot.

You are an idiot.

You are an idiot.

You are an idiot.

You are an idiot.

You are an idiot.

Thatcher and Cameron were/are both infinitely more intelligent and successful than you will ever be.

You are an idiot.

 

Way to go, I thought the laughable rhetoric was already as ridiculous as possible but you went full on Godwin's Law in order to go above and beyond.

 

You are right on that bit.

 

What exactly is the greater cause that you support for Brexit?

It seems like you are cheering for this because it is bad for a political party and a couple of politicians in particular, not because you think leaving the EU is actually good for UK?

 

I am glad that Cameron resigned, and would like to see Osborne leave as well.

I am glad that people are beginning to reconsider austerity for austerity's sake.

And maybe the Tea Party should take a look at the real-life consequences of austerity on working class people.

 

He is just blabbering, as usual. None of what he wrote makes any sense, which is why he got the only response he deserved.

 

And now another post about unrelated bull****. Congrats on inserting yourself into another thread so you can post about yourself.

 

Ok, and now what??

 

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This will be a huge paperwork nightmare for EU citizens in the UK and UK citizens in the EU. Retirees and people with summer homes. EU university students who pay "home" fees in the UK. The list goes on.

Also, this is different than pre-EU UK "sovereignty" because before there was no singular Union across the channel.

And, yeah, financial institutions have been bracing for the storm this would create and is now creating. Should be interesting.

It is funny that there are American gloating about this as some kind of victory for them.

 

1) Scotland and Northern Ireland leaving England. English MPs hold 85% of votes on two progressive constituencies who deserve better.

2) Seeing the consequences of austerity and immigration-baiting live for England--and given how sadistic the EU will want to be, it won't be pretty.

3) Pushing the EU to reform some aspects I think are undemocratic and sometimes unnecessarily sadistic. (ex: for the former, the democratic deficit in the European Commission, and for the latter the Troika's treatment of "distressed" nations.)

4) Watching the IMF eat its words slowly on the political and economic arguments underlying austerity.

5) Ultimately, a turn away from austerity and a move towards the large spending 21st century STEM/infrastructure projects will require.

 

1) Scotland and Northern Ireland leaving England. English MPs hold 85% of votes on two progressive constituencies who deserve better.

2) Seeing the consequences of austerity and immigration-baiting live for England--and given how sadistic the EU will want to be, it won't be pretty.

3) Pushing the EU to reform some aspects I think are undemocratic and sometimes unnecessarily sadistic. (ex: for the former, the democratic deficit in the European Commission, and for the latter the Troika's treatment of "distressed" nations.)

4) Watching the IMF eat its words slowly on the political and economic arguments underlying austerity.

5) Ultimately, a turn away from austerity and a move towards the large spending 21st century STEM/infrastructure projects will require.

 

Let's just say that I am affected by this in many ways.

Fixed this for you.

 

Mmm...

How exactly is the economic downturn affecting working class people in England and Wales irrelevant to a thread about Brexit? They tended to vote pretty heavily for Brexit, especially Labour constituencies that are usually more pro-EU, and this was a major factor cited throughout the Leave campaign (who just happened to attribute it to immigration).

 

So Northside Storm, basically you are happy about this today because you don't like the economic policies of the people who opposed Brexit and you believe that Brexit will hurt people so much they'll turn to different leaders with different ideas.

Damn man.

Do you root for the entire financial industry to collpase and ruin everyone's life so that when we start over the next generation won't charge people for college education?

I have to admit to being puzzled that you would root for disaster and economic pain to fall on people. What if the reverse happens and this pain is so bad that it makes people think they should have listened to Cameron?

 

You should reread your post. Everyone who can read English sees it is about your pointless opinions on various political figures and groups.

 

I'm not happy about it, but people voted for their own economic disaster, not me. I am pointing out the long-term consequences of their choice, and some of the root causes behind it.

I actually concur with some people in this thread that this won't be as bad as the damage already done by 2008 + austerity, though that hasn't stopped them from dog-piling for some reason LOL.

 

Yeah, you think Cameron and Osborne succeeded, did you?

You keep on talking about Project Fear, well, I'm talking about the flipside with you.

And I am telling you the policies they embrace will generalize to failure elsewhere.

The same as all those nutters who somehow think that immigration has a massively significant effect on wages/employment and want to generalize policy to that i.e some significant percentage of 52% of the UK's population.

 

You've called it a victory and have seemingly been cheering it.

If the majority of US voters voted to return black people to slavery would you champion that too as a victory for the "will of the people?"

This is a victory for stupidity and fear. The fact that it hurts people you don't like shouldn't be all it takes for you to champion it. You routinely rail against policies enacted by politicians who won popular votes.

 

I said it was a win for the will of the people, and it was a win against those that fearmonger excessively around economic arguments.

The first is a placeholder for any direct democratic contest, really, and the second is a fact I've observed: people avoid certain actions because they fear for the stability of the current system--and this is why after 2008, we have a consolidated financial sector that is much the same and that will leave as much pain or more for future generations as it did in the past.

I am seeing constituencies start to be more variable in their choices (including in the United States), and so hopefully things like what I just mentioned will happen less and less as more people embrace longer-term views rather than short-term "oh the FTSE will go down 500 points, so don't regulate the banks!" I've already said I think the direction of this energy is misguided in this case, but I applaud the energy and will to change, and thought about where that might lead (ex: Scotland).

Save me from your slavery debate, you and I both know that America is a republican democracy for a reason, and there's safeguards against when the "will of the people" goes overboard. Article 50 isn't one of those issues, and it's on Cameron for desperately trying to get elected and offering this without safeguards for letting his own people remind him of his failures.