David Cameron: Britain's EU Referendum to be held June 23

Ironically, if everyone else does what you do and ignores people who they think are morons, you'd be ignored by 95% of the BBS.

 

You both would. You are 2 sides of the same coin.

 

Scotland should leave England to its own ruins. They keep on electing twats like Thatcher and Cameron, and if it's Prime Minister Johnson...

"You just made an enemy for life!"

 

The fear that Brexit opponents propagated mainly from educated economists were warranted. Look at the British pound currently. The British economy is going to take a massive hit.

This is a perfect case that will be pointed at by our children as evidence that direct democracy is stupid because the common lay person has no clue about the ramifications of leaving the EU. They voted out of emotion instead of logic.

Britain now just ****ed themselves over because now they have to abide by DOUBLE the amount of regulation because OBVIOUSLY their number one trading partner is still going to be the EU thus they still have to abide by EU trade regulations(something that Brexit proponents spewed as a benefit). It's not like magically leaving the EU is going to allow Great Britain to avoid EU regulations. So not only do they have to from the ground up make their own regulations, they still have to abide by EU regulations because most of their trade is going to be with the EU.

Just plain stupid and proves that low information voting is something that we should really worry about. It's a ominous sign that Trump has a legitimate chance.

I can see automotive engineers pulling their hair out now because not only do they have to engineer regulations for the U.S market and the EU market but now for the British market. Each will have their own emissions and safety regulations. Poor engineers.

 

I think it's just about time for everybody to agree that England can have its own slumber party with Wales (for another generation, perhaps).

 

FTSE stabilizing thanks to everybody's favorite Canadian, Mark Carney.

 

You must be oblivious to the reality that nobody respects your opinions on any subject. D&D, Texans, Rockets, you name it. Take a poll and no one would side with you.

 

I do accept the fact that there are a lot of stupid people out there, but I don't have as negative a view as you do, surely there are more intelligent people out there than you are suggesting.

Anyway, either accept the criticism or live in denial, doesn't bother me any I already know not to take you seriously.

 

Because the UK will instantly create their own regulations that are different from the EU and USA? Talk about low information. If anything they should upgrade to the higher emission standards of the USA seeing as the low EU standards is what ****ed them out of compensation in the VW scandal.

I wonder if Ford engineers will possibly be able to make an engine that can meet USA standards?

 

LOL it's truly entertaining seeing the extent of your delusion. Thanks for the laughs.

 

Yes, I agree with this. The feelings on this issue went well beyond political lines and you have odd bed fellows. Also, the reality is that immigration and EU policy DID and still DOES have consequences that a lot of the UK simply does not like or did not think is fair.

I am not stating an opinion as to whether their opinion is right or wrong, or short sighted or even bigoted. However, having a home over there and having lived over there half the year for years, I can tell you that there were and are tangible changes when it came to basic day to day life. Obviously, a lot of people in the UK did not like the changes and voted accordingly.

 

It does if Obama controls a certain person's thoughts and emotions. But yes, I agree with you for anyone with an approximation of mental balance.

 

Once again, immigrants are a scapegoat.

"I have a feeling, in a few years people are going to be doing what they always do when the economy tanks. They will be blaming immigrants and poor people."

This falls entirely upon right-wing politics on austerity and privatization. Those who would like to enact those same policies in the United States should watch and learn from the utter failings of the Conservatives, who tore their nation apart, and ruined their economy to boot.

 

Cameron, the hypocritical tax avoider, and Osborne, his economic sadist-in-chief, deserve everything that is happening to them now. Osborne should resign NOW.

They leave behind a ruined legacy. As it should be for anybody whose right-wing policies caught up with them in their lifetimes. If only the same had happened for Reagan and Thatcher...

 

Except the Brexit proponents want LESS regulation. One of the most prevalent arguments for Brexit was getting rid of EU regulations. My point is that British manufacturers will still have to abide by EU regulations if they want to sell their product to EU nations which obviously they are.

My entire point is that leaving the EU does not mean leaving EU regulations. In fact, the only thing Brexit is going to do is INCREASE regulations.

And I never stated that I'm not one of those lay people in regards to economics. ****, the vast majority of posters in this thread are also. I am a lay individual in that regard and guess what... I listen to the advice of professional economists and not brush them off as "the establishment". That's what stupid low information voters do. "Economist! What do they know!"

 

I guess I missed the part where UKIP is now forming their own government because of this vote. The fact is they still only have one MP and any changes in regulation will be decided by the UK. The real worry will be for VW as Ford and vauxhall can take care of the UK market just fine (without selling them pollution machines) and it is obvious which side the EU takes in a conflict between VW and the UK. Mentioning cars is entirely the wrong argument as the UK completely holds the upper hand in that market as buyers.

This freakout is really telling. I guess Project Fear worked better than I thought. The sky isn't falling.

 

Looks like those smug Norwegians and Swiss were right all along.

 

The amount of economic damage George Osborne has already caused by pursuing wrong-headed policies trumps any fearmongering he created.

There will be short term economic pain, which may be on par with or relatively benign after Osborne doubled down on the same policies that brought 2008 to the fore, and refused to address its root causes. Nothing too bad. I wouldn't invest in FTSE for a while though, or any European indexes.

The root causes will still be there, but this system shock won't be the first before people look deeper.

The Conservative party should dump Osborne. It remains to be seen if they're going to scapegoat immigrants, or look to the ruinous policies that caused the whole economic mess in the first place. I'm going to assume the former, and I'm going to assume that will prolong the pain.

The Scots and the Irish should decide enough is enough of this charade, and leave. If they can force difficult questions about oil as the basis of an economy, and nuclear weapons along the way--so much the better.

Net net, this is a win for everybody who believes in the will of the people, and who believes that economic pain is worth it for greater causes. That kind of attitude is going to be required to clean up the mess that began decades ago.

 

Cameron did what Hitler could not in setting in motion the eventual break up of the UK.

And it was all *entirely* self inflicted. You dont set up referendums like this unless you know youre gonna win.

What a dumbass. He will end up ranked below Neville Chamberlain

 

You keep going on about the chancellor but he would have been gone no matter how the vote went. His proposed punishment budget didn't even have conservative support. At least stay on topic about this thread. Just talking about complete unrelated bull****.