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Limbaugh being investigated for buying illegal drugs

Discussion in 'BBS Hangout: Debate & Discussion' started by glynch, Oct 2, 2003.

  1. Timing

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    I'm not celebrating this man's addiction, that's a terrible thing that millions of people face every day. The fact is though that he's a rich sob who can afford to help himself like so many millions can't. We treat crack heads like the scum of the earth but here's a millionaire doing drugs and we have to tippy toe around this great "misfortune" that he is far more capable than most of avoiding in the first place and treating if necessary. However, bottome line is that this guy is a freakin a-hole scumbag who's made a living out of character assasination and mud slinging. Karma is just working it's way back to him.
     
  2. robbie380

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    hey man when you've seen your best friend's older brother kill himself because of drugs, my closest uncle's son die from drugs, your first love be constantly in trouble because of drugs, your cousin screwed up from drugs, and others i have known you don't tend to view it as hardly a misfortune.
     
  3. glynch

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    I agree that it is no cause to celbrate that Rush is a drug addict.

    It is not something to celebrate when one has one's judgment impaired by drug addiction and then based on that impaired judgment spews falsehoods to a gullible public.


    It is truly sad to have such people setting the political agenda of so many Americans.
     
  4. Bigman

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    Obviously, no one should celebrate someone's demons. However, I find it ironic how hypocritical he is. He'd be the first one to jump on someone for any type of addiction and drag their name through the mud, especially democrats. After he showed his ignorance on ESPN his credibility is circling the crapper. Not that he had much with me anyway.
     
  5. No Worries

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    National Enquirer.

    Hmmm. I am going to wait until Rush is carted off to jail before I get behind this story. The story did make an interesting read.
     
  6. treeman

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    News organizations from all over the spectrum are confirming that Florida prosecutors have told them that Rush is part of an illegal prescription drug investigation. What part, they won't say, but it looks like he might have been a buyer...

    If true, and at this point it looks like it might be, then the hypocrisy charge is certainly legitemate.
     
  7. Timing

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    We can all drag out our anecdotal sad stories and it still stands that Rush Limbaugh is hardly just "anyone" as you phrased it.
     
  8. GladiatoRowdy

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    The way I understand it, Oxycontin is like morphine squared. It is an unbelieveable breakthrough in treatment for chronic pain sufferers and an easy target for the black marketeers. A rational drug policy could have helped to identify Limbaugh's addictive behaviors earlier and may have helped him to recover sooner. In the meantime, I wish him the best of luck in his recovery, which is difficult for regular people, much less those under public scrutiny.
     
  9. GladiatoRowdy

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    It is a misfortune for those who find themselves between an addiction and the criminal justice system. A rational drug policy would find and utilize the most effective ways to deal with addicts.
     
  10. Deckard

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    I listen to him in the car pretty often... to get an idea of where that side, the Far Side of the Right, is coming from.

    The guy has had a lot of influence on people who lean to the right out of proportion to what he says of any substance, if anyone gets my drift. He's often been very funny while doing it, although he used to be funnier.

    Rush has made a lucrative career out of bemoaning the "politics of destruction" by "the Left", when he was bringing the politics of destruction to a fever pitch himself. Should these charges prove to be true, Limbaugh could very well have been destroying himself at the same time.

    What irony that would be.
     
  11. mrpaige

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    Isn't what Rush was involved in closer to the system of drug regulation that you are in favor of? I mean, he wasn't buying heroin off the street, he was medicating himself with a regulated prescription medicine.

    These weren't illegal drugs, they are legal, but regulated drugs that he allegedly acquired through illegal channels.

    I admit that I haven't read every detail about your proposed regulation system, but I thought it wouldn't differ to wildly from that of the current prescription drug system, as that is the closest thing we have to a legal but regulated drug market.

    So, I'm asking here (not accusing).
     
  12. giddyup

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    I have a question about the specific hypocrisy charge.

    The only specific offered is Limbaugh's criticism of Kurt Cobain (circa when 1996?). Rush's addiction problems (if they are real) are only 2-3 years old, I believe. Where is the hypociscy? Doesn't a charge of hypocrisy require simultaneous disconnect between his mouth and his activity-- not sequential disconnect?

    Is he currently ranting about drug addicts... or has it even been a proclivity of his? Not to my mind. I remember the comment about Cobain as being a re-direct at someone who had glorified Cobain.

    Also, hasn't it been reported that he has been through drug rehab twice with regard to this alleged problem? You all make him out to be some reckless drug abuser when this may be/seems like fallout from some medical condition. We'll see.
     
  13. X-PAC

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    I understand the quote on Cobain being offensive and to a point hypocritical. Other than that it would be interesting if someone were to go back and retrieve a quote where he chastised/supported the issue of mar1juana or any other drug for medical purposes. There appears to be a rudimentary problem with Rush's health if he is using such a powerful pain reliever. Albeit it is illegal to obtain without the permission of a doctor but for years people have critiqued drug policy in America.

    As for your assertion that the right is being hypocritical for supporting Arnold the "harasser" thats comical. All I need to respond to that is with Bill Clinton. Personally I wouldn't vote for Arnold. McClintock seems to be the only candidate that impresses me over there if I had a vote. But I am surprised you 'independents' detest Arnold so much. On most issues he's more socially democrat than he is truly conservative.

    As for Oxycontin I looked it up and found some interesting info on it...

    http://www.fda.gov/cder/drug/infopage/oxycontin/oxycontin-qa.htm

     
  14. GladiatoRowdy

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    To an extent, but my plan would have much more ability for healthcare professionals to track drug sales to identify possible cases of misuse and abuse. The only way that we are going to get a handle on the problem of drug abuse is to come up with a unified strategy for all psychoactives. This strategy would be specifically designed to study the best ways to reduce drug abuse (and eventually use) such that we reduce the harms that the users do to themselves and others.

    Under my system, Rush would have been able to purchase recreational pharmaceuticals if using a drug recreationally was his goal. He never would have had to try something with as many possible consequences if he could have legally purchase something to use recreationally. In addition, if he had started graduating through the "drug ladder, (my pet phrase) we could have identified him as a possible problem user and his doctor could have had conversations about treatment much earlier in his "career" of drug use.

    So, the answer is that even prescription drugs are not as tightly controlled as I would control ALL psychoactives.
     
  15. F.D. Khan

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    Why is everyone here saying the word ILLEGAL, and some were comparing it to heroin??

    C'mon. Its a prescription pain killer, albeit a strong one. If his methods of attaining these pain killers was not correct, then he should pay the consequences. But its not THAT big of a deal.

    Actually this is quite common. A family friend of mine's father had always had back problems and was in much pain. He got addicted to prescription pain killers and it cost him his marriage and his family.

    As Jay Leno said last night :

    " If this lady was getting him 47,000 pills in 47 days and more over 10 years then she's not his maid, she's his drug dealer! "
     
  16. SamFisher

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    Because the street name for OxyContin is "Hillbilly Heroin" and it is reportedly a big problem in rural communities.

    It's not like xanax or valium that some pill popping society hostess would use; it's very strong and very addictive and is used by the lower castes (that rush often denounces) rather than the higher ones.
     
  17. underoverup

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    Morphine is a prescription pain killer-- here is a little quote on Oxycontin.

     
  18. SamFisher

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    Give the big man his due; his reprehensible remarks about Cobain notwithstanding (which, by the way, when you read them in conjunction with what we know now are more likely an expression of Self-loathing, which is probably what a lot of his hate spewing garbage comes from)

    But he seems to be remarkably tolerant of illegal drugs in this excerpt, and with good reason I guess:



     
  19. pgabriel

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    This can be written about every argument on this board.
     
  20. Oski2005

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    He's just treating that thing on his ass that was an excuse to skip Vietnam.

    *rimshot*


    Okay, that was cheap. Seriously, I'm still not sure this is true. I mean, when famous people do drugs, the story slips out somehow. By that, I mean 2nd hand counts of people seeing them under the influence. He is being investigated though, and the house keeper came forward, but wasn't she talking the the National Enquirer(tabloid)?
     

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