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Florida Night Club Shooting - at least 20 dead - impact on US elections?

Discussion in 'BBS Hangout: Debate & Discussion' started by AroundTheWorld, Jun 12, 2016.

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Will this shooting help Trump or Clinton, if it turns out that it was religiously motivated terror?

  1. It will help Trump

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  2. It will help Clinton

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  3. It will help neither of them

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  1. TL

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    Ha, obviously can't disagree with that. My point was, though, that the early info sounds like this POS was more of an angry anti-American looking for an excuse to justify his hatred rather than a "true believer". I would expect a real ISIL person to be well versed in their views and more aware of their allies/enemies.

    It just sounds like he was more anti-us then pro-ISIs/al queda/hezbollah/whatever. And if that is true, then it calls into question what the true motivations really were
     
  2. Air Langhi

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    Does ISIS still take credit for the attack now that they know the guy was gay?
     
  3. Bobbythegreat

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    I'm sure they'll spin it and say either that he was just casing the joint or that he was a homosexual trying to atone for his sins or maybe they'll just say that it is all lies.
     
  4. Sweet Lou 4 2

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    So you are saying the FBI is lying, correct?
     
  5. Bobbythegreat

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    I'm saying that you are spinning what is a very obvious situation for political reasons. The FBI saying that someone isn't the target of their investigation is not the same as saying that the person is not being investigated.
     
  6. SeabrookMiglla

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    trump made his debut and garnered the attention he did because of open racism... this just adds fuel to the fire and makes him look better.
     
  7. Sweet Lou 4 2

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    Seriously? That's your reasoning to say she is being investigated? Because you see the FBI saying she is not the "target" meaning that they are still investigating here on the periphery???

    And you accuse me of spin?

    You are making an unsubstantiated accusation. I might as well accuse you of being under investigation.
     
  8. CometsWin

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    Errr... so who is the target of the investigation? The email stork? Sounds legit.
     
  9. Bobbythegreat

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    Exactly. I mean, Sweet Lou would have you believe that they are only investigating her email server and her emails but not investigating her simply because the FBI said at one point that she wasn't the "target" of the investigation.....but when the target of an investigation is a person's actions, then you are just playing word games.

    Clearly Hillary is under FBI investigation so I don't see a reason to play those games, but I guess some people do.
     
  10. CometsWin

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    What? You just said this.

    What? You've had a bad day buddy.
     
  11. Sweet Lou 4 2

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    If she was truly under investigation there is no way the DNC and Prez would support her candidacy.
    The FBI is conducting a criminal investigation into the handling of certain classified emails around drone strikes. Those strike orders often had to be approved when Clinton was not at the office - with only a small window - so the emails were send to her where she gave approval on her blackberry. This is the issue the FBI is looking into. And law enforcement has stated they are not expecting any charges to be filed against Clinton despite the fact she did indeed give approval for drone strikes outside secure channels. You're digging down a rabbit hole and nothing is going to happen here.

    Why are we talking about email in a Orlando carnage thread anyway?
     
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    Premeditated, gay or not. Killing 50 seems very accurate and a plan by ISIS. Regardless of the motives, 50 innocent lives have been lost. Human life is the importance here.
     
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    I don't know how to shoot a gun or whatever but I know if you killed that many people? It takes some practice man. Can the authorities start questioning these gun ranges he went to or something or is there a secluded place he goes, to do Rambo mode?
     
  15. Bobbythegreat

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    LOL, it's adorable that you really think the spin you've been fed. The FBI is looking into the fact that she had classified information on a private server which is against the law. They are also investigating other mishandling of classified information which is also against the law.

    Now, if it'll actually end in charges, probably not because the Obama DOJ would have to be the ones pressing those charges and let's face it, he's not going to let that happen.

    As to why we're talking about it, you saw me reference it and you wanted to make sure you added your spin to it.
     
  16. iconoclastic

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    I think it was a packed club. It's not that hard to just unload in a packed club filled with hundreds of people and drop 50.
     
  17. Amiga

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    Good question.

    He also was clearly on a suicide mission. Does God give him 72 virgin for his action or punishment for being gay? What does radical Islamic teaching say? Did this even cross his mind?

    And what a tormented soul. Being gay and following teaching that gay is sinful. Seems to explain why his former wife only saw his bad behaviors after marriage. He probably tried to act fit in, but the self hating was too much for him to control and his wife was the recipient of that hate. Unfortunately, that continue until he just had enough of it and took it out on all the folks he probably blame for his own feelings.
     
  18. Bandwagoner

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    Yeah the terrorist sure had it rough. Gee no one has had to choose between family and feelings before, or religion and life choice or family and leaving a cult.

    If the report is true he wasn't all that in the closet or repressed. I find it shocking it is some well know axiom that that hate crimes against LGBT are most likely committed by LGBT. Not something I would have believed.
     
  19. Big MAK

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    Anyone else think Trump was excited when the new broke?

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