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Muslims in Germany demand the right to make the University of Berlin into a mosque

Discussion in 'BBS Hangout: Debate & Discussion' started by AroundTheWorld, May 27, 2016.

  1. AroundTheWorld

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    Your only source is whatever you just happened to google the moment before. It's a video that speaks for itself. The source doesn't matter.
     
  2. Northside Storm

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    You made it matter by copy + pasting the misleading headline from the source into your forum headline.

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    anyways, I don't want to get mired in your quagmire of circular insults. Vet your sources more carefully. Good day.
     
  3. fchowd0311

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    ATW, so did the Jews and the Christians at my high school who requested and were granted rooms to meet and perform religious actives turning my school into a church or synagogue?
     
  4. DaDakota

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    None of them should have been accommodated, it is not the schools place to give them somewhere to pray.

    They can do that at home.

    DD
     
  5. fchowd0311

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    Do you remember high school? School districts allow students to form clubs as long as they can find a teacher or other member of faculty to 'sponsor' them as in look over them after class. That's all it is. It's just some of these clubs are like the MSA or the Christian and Jewish equivalent. What do you see wrong with that?
     
  6. AroundTheWorld

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    Your only source is whatever you just happened to google the moment before. It's a video that speaks for itself. The source doesn't matter.
     
  7. AroundTheWorld

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    Did they

    • segregate men and women and force women to wear headscarves in that room
    • promote values that were not in line with constitutional rights (equal rights for women, no persecution of homosexuals) in that room
    • stage several ostentative huge demos on public grounds, involving many people who were not even students at the university
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  8. Northside Storm

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    well, to be fair, the surrender of America to Islam already happened a few decades ago.
     
  9. Northside Storm

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    Wait, now you have a problem with peaceful demonstrations? :confused:
     
  10. AroundTheWorld

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    The headline is not misleading. It's called headline hyperbole. If you actually believed that they were LITERALLY trying to turn the whole university into a mosque, you are even dumber than I thought.

    And again, the source does not matter. It's a video showing what happened (pretty sure you have not even watched it).
     
  11. fchowd0311

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    Did all those individual that joined the MSA club at my high school do it of their own volition? Yes?

    You just pretty much made an argument that their shouldn't be a club where only men or only women are allowed also. Thus no more all girls soccer teams or no all boys football teams.
     
  12. AroundTheWorld

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    I have a problem with what they are demanding in their demonstration.

    I understand you are intellectually unable to grasp the difference between being against the content of a demonstration but still being for the right to lawful, peaceful demonstrations. I guess that means you would "not have a problem with a KKK march, as long as it is peaceful".
     
  13. fchowd0311

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    Apparently extremist Islam was in my backyard the whole time I was raised in the Houston area because the MSA existed in my high school and they had a designated club room.
     
  14. AroundTheWorld

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    That's something entirely different. I won't explain to you how playing sports with people of your same gender and discrimination based on a religious ideology are not even in the same ballpark. You are an intelligent guy. If you think about it for a bit, you will realize it.
     
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    The thing about this is that I don't, and I would fight for their right to protest, just like the ACLU did in Skokie with neo-Nazis. I don't have a problem with people expressing degenerate and stupid ideas, it gives people more reason to turn away from them if they're meant to lose in the marketplace of ideas.

    Good old consistent leftist scum, I am :)
     
  16. fchowd0311

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    They are demanding a room to pray...

    I really don't see what is so draconian about this? Pretty much every university campus I've been on has in in campus Mosque, Churches of MULTIPLE DOMINATIONS and a Synagogue... PUBLIC universities to too to make things clear.
     
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    So where is the line drawn? So a group of Christians in my school who want to start their after school club and have it in one of the school's rooms cannot propagate some of the verses in the Bible that are in direct conflict with our secular values such as the Bible explicitly stating that women need to obey their husbands or that women need to shut the **** up? Can't I make an equally as asinine argument as yours stating that no Christians should form a after school club because they are reading from a book that advocates explicit misogyny?
     
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    If a university decides to offer that, it's their decision. (I don't think they should, I am in favour of a strict separation of state and religion.) If they decide to not offer it, nobody should cause a stink about it. Part of the reason to no longer offer it is when you realize that the room you provided in good faith is used to promote discriminatory and hateful values (which was the case here).
     
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    I did watch it, actually. LOL.

    What's funny is that I actually generally agree with you on this thread, but your thin skin is very Trump-like. I just pointed out that your headline came from a right-wing thinker who probably does LITERALLY believe they are trying to turn the whole university into a mosque just like he believes France is surrender monkeying to Islam. You're being stuck in a circuitous plane of insults because you chose the wrong source, and not it's not just clickbait: read more into the dude, and see what he believes. Do you want to be associated with this horses**t?

    http://vladtepesblog.com/

    Honestly, I thought I was doing you a favor by showing how you were discrediting your argument for no reason by adapting the thought patterns of somebody who seems REALLY bad at distinguishing sensationalism with reality--but hey, whatever, no good deed goes unpunished. peace.
     
  20. AroundTheWorld

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    You are a bit slow mentally. Nobody was talking about their right to protest - again, I am not against their right to protest, I am against what they are demanding in their protest. DO YOU UNDERSTAND THE DIFFERENCE?
     

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