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2004 NFL Draft

Discussion in 'Houston Texans' started by Alimoe84, Sep 29, 2003.

  1. sonique15

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    will definitely be a defensive player (please be a safety)
     
  2. SamFisher

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    I think in the first three rounds, preferably somehow the first two (maybe with a Henson pick?), we need

    1. DB (I'd prefer a lockdown corner and move coleman to safety)
    1. (tie)DL (anybody, DT, DE, it doesn't matter, get a DT and play him at end)
    3. OL (we need the depth, they're an injury or 2 away from chaos again)

    A top running back would be nice, but RB's, they bloom early and burn out fast, so you might as well get a top one later rather than sooner.
     
  3. tierre_brown

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    OL guys you can get in later rounds, and they turn out ok. Chester Pitts went 4th round and he's turned out to be a very good fill-in for Boselli.

    I definitely think we go D, preferably secondary first, then DL, unless there's a behemoth on the DL we can't miss on (don't know any off the top of my head). Sean Taylor seems NFL ready, impact player in his first year (this coming from a Miami hater!). I'd consder a lot of CBs too: Vasher would probably be a good cover CB; Gamble could play both offense and defense if they're worried about WRs. I think our pick will be from 4-7 so that stud DB should still be available.

    Edit- Apparently, Pitts went 3rd. My bad.
     
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  4. JamesC

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    I wondered what the Texans would do if they could somehow trade Drew Henson's rights for a top 5 pick. As far as what players they would target, we'll have to wait for the Combine.
     
  5. land_sharks

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    I wouldn't spend too much time thinking about....





    It's not going to happen. Never in One Million years.
     
  6. egn

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    Your bad again!

    Pitts went in the 2nd round
     
  7. ima_drummer2k

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    His groin would have kept him out this week if we didn't have a bye. He should be back at 100% against the titans. Heard it on 610 this morning.

    There's no reason the Texans should take any offensive players in the first 3 rounds IMO. We need a stud safety and a stud D-lineman.

    AJ and Gaffney are just going to get better every year. The line is starting to gel and Seth Wand should be ready to go next year. We drafted Jopru at TE. Davis and Hollings will only get better at RB. And please don't draft anymore QB's...

    I still don't get that Ragone pick. :confused:
     
  8. egn

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    D.J. Williams - LB University of Miami - could play weakside or in the middle alongside Jamie Sharper for a nasty combo. Has an incredible combination of speed, size and field awareness.

    Sean Taylor - University of Miami - Has great size at 6'3" 220 plus lbs. Good speed and has shown great playmaking ability. Still and underclassman but may go mid to late first round.

    Vince Wilfork - University of Miami - Decent size at 6'2" but with his low center of gravity at 340 plus pounds and great strength Vince would be and ideal fit for the Texans at the nose tackle position in Dom's 34 defense. Also like teammate Sean Taylor, Wilfork is still just a junior.


    IMO, I feel as if the Texans will try to draft Wilfork (if he opts for NFL) or D.J. Williams. If Henson can get us a low first round pick I feel Taylor (if he opts for NFL) may be attainable with that pick.

    I'd like to see us get a corner but I think there are bigger holes to fill. Maybe we could steal a corner in the early second round such as Vasher, Gamble, or Strait that could spend a little time learning from one of the best cover corners in Aaron Glenn while he's still in a Texans uniform.

    Players I also like:
    Frank Gore RB
    Teddy Lehman LB
    Tommie Harris DT
     
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  9. 4chuckie

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    When did character issues matter in the NFL? (See Randy Moss)
    Injuries? (See Maghee)
    Durability? (He runs like a NFL back, low and hard. It's easier to teach a guy to avoid a hit then to run hard)

    If Clarett wins his case and if he tests out ok in the 40 someone will take him very early. He is a weightroom beast (benchs over 450 lbs, squatting 700 lbs which isn't bad for a 19 y/o). Doesn't have ideal size (5-9). Only question is his speed. If he hits 4.4-4.55 he'll go early. But the speed is the question.
     
  10. rocketfan83

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    Roy Williams anybody? Ya it is obviously not a need but I think it is something that they should consider. Think about the Minnesota Vikings of the late 90's with Carter and Moss that offense was unbelievable. With AJ and Roy they could have results similar to teams like that plus it would last longer. 2 superstar recivers has been done but I dont believe there has been a team built around two youthful superstar recivers. Carr, Dre, Roy together would be the #'1 offense in the NFL for a very long time. I would defintely be tempted to draft Roy but I have a feeling that he will be gone by the time the Texans pick. My guess is that Sean Taylor is the next player taken in the draft by the texans.
     
  11. Jared Novak

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    When did character issues matter in the NFL? (See Randy Moss)

    Yeah but Moss has a talent for making big plays, and has proved himself on the professional level.

    Injuries? (See Maghee)

    McGahee would've been a top three pick if he had not gotten hurt, hell with the way it sounded, he could've been a Texan.

    Durability? (He runs like a NFL back, low and hard. It's easier to teach a guy to avoid a hit then to run hard)

    Doesn't every RB run low and hard. Clarett still has to mature physically, he's only 19 or 20.

    If Clarett wins his case and if he tests out ok in the 40 someone will take him very early. He is a weightroom beast (benchs over 450 lbs, squatting 700 lbs which isn't bad for a 19 y/o). Doesn't have ideal size (5-9). Only question is his speed. If he hits 4.4-4.55 he'll go early. But the speed is the question.

    There are alot of GM's who will be wary of Clarett. There are plenty of workout beasts who can lift the whole gym, but that doesn't necessarily translate onto the field. If his speed is questionable, then thats a huge question. If he doesn't have explosiveness (which I didn't see a whole lot of last season), then he'll drop even further.
     
  12. rockets-#1

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    Yeah my thoughts exactly....but the list just goes on and on - for example, McGahee.
     
  13. egn

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    Tearing knee ligaments is not as bad of and injury as it once was. Even serious tears such as MaGahee's a player may only be out for a year. But unlike MaGahee, Clarett did not tear his knee. What Clarett does have is shoulder problems. Shoulder problems in todays NFL are more serious than torn knee ligaments. Case in point: Tony Boselli. Not that Clarett would take that kind of pounding, but, as an NFL running back you're going to get yours. IMO, many teams will pass on Clarett in 2005 because of his durability.
     
  14. 4chuckie

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    No doubt teams will pass on him in 2005, he'll be in a 2004 draft (maybe regular maybe supplemental) :)
     
  15. egn

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    No way this process is done and ready to have him in the 2004 Draft. Hence my implement of 2005.
     
  16. egn

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    The NFL will fight this rule will all of their might. They may not win but they will certainly drag on the court process as long as possible.
     
  17. ESource

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    Stevens is a free safety. Boss Bailey is an OLB. Although Boss is fast, he is NOT a safety. Best bet for a safety for next year's draft is Sean Taylor, FS, Miami 'Canes.........
     
  18. rezdawg

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    Its all about Sean Taylor.

    I say go all defense. Build the O-line through free agency.
     
  19. 4chuckie

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    Hence me saying supplemental draft. All it will take is him winning the initial verdict, the NFL can appeal but they can't block the initial ruling the way it was explained on Columbus radio. That means if he wins the initial verdict the NFL would have to immediately make him eligible and for some reason (I am not a lawyer) but in these cases an appeal can't delay his right (maybe it's anti-trust maybe it's right to work I dunno for sure).

    Also the trial is set to take place in February 2004.
     
  20. ima_drummer2k

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    Ditto. We went offense for the most part with our first 2 drafts. It's time to go defense. Weary, Pitts, Wand and Brown were all good picks. Same with Hollings, Davis, Gaf and AJ. They all just need time.

    We don't need Roy Williams as much as we need Sean Taylor.

    BTW, am I the only one who is tired of hearing about Maurice Clarett?
     

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