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New York Times: Hillary Clinton illegally used private email for all State Dept. business

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  1. bigtexxx

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    Possibly the only time I've ever repped glynch. Nice post, Comrade.

    FranchiseBlade will say or believe anything if it supports his political candidate of choice. He has the mind of a child.
     
  2. Bobbythegreat

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    Simply not true, or at least there is no evidence that any other Secretary of State sent or received classified information via a privately controlled server, there is also no evidence that any other Secretary of State ever told a staffer to remove classification headings from documents (a crime) and send it via unclassified means (a crime). Those are just the 2 most obvious things we have publicly available evidence absolutely happened. It's indisputable.

    Sure Glynch is a joke, but so is trying to defend Hillary on this. What she did was wrong and it is criminal. There's just no way around it even if her political standing allows her the ability to escape justice.
     
  3. FranchiseBlade

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    Except that I'm not a supporter of Hillary, and will not vote for her in the election, unless somehow California is in danger of going over to Trump which is highly unlikely.
     
  4. FranchiseBlade

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    Yes, that is correct. They've traded a crazy murderous dictator, for a battle between terrorist groups which includes ISIS and other anti Gaddafi (choose your spelling for his name) groups.
     
  5. Cohete Rojo

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    Do people who don't like either major party candidate at least cast a ballot? I've castes a ballot with no presidential vote. I wish we had the ability to cast a negative vote - more so than ever. It's like - I don't like this candidate but I don't like the other one enough to "vote against" the other.
     
  6. Deckard

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    If you don't like either major candidate, pick the one most likely to appoint Federal judges who will make rulings you agree with. Many appointed for life, including the Supreme Court, these judges will impact your country decades after the candidate you didn't like otherwise is out of office. Use your noggin, man. It pains me to see otherwise intelligent people here declare that they are basically throwing away their vote on a 3rd party candidate, or none at all, because "Hillary is the Devil Incarnate" and other similar statements. Make your vote count for something real.
     
  7. Bobbythegreat

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    Saying that is a great way to make Donald Trymp the president so I'd just assume you not push that line of thought.
     
  8. glynch

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    Hey I was with Bernie --"tired of hearing about the damn emails", figured this was just more crap like Benghazi !!, the impeachment for a blowjob etc. I have been against Clinton due to her policies and a vastly superior candidate in Bernie, but the facts are coming out now and looking much worse. Hey an argument can be made that Hillary is still the lesser of two evils when compared to the ridiculous Trump.

    Getting hysterical will not help the Dems win in November. It may be too late for Hillary to help herself by coming clean and not lying about her emails. It is not totally too late to go for the candidate Sanders without this scandal Such recent repeated public lying helps deflect from Trump's own chronic lying.

    If you actually want to try to defend Hillary and try to explain away her actual actions and not merely repeat her lies wrt to this matter, Watch Andrea Mitchell and other media defenders of Clinton look dismayed at past clips of her lying wrt to this issue,

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  9. Space Ghost

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    What does it really matter? For the vast majority of people, their vote doesn't matter unless they are in a swing state. Even most of the congressional elections doesn't matter.

    The parties are corrupt beyond belief. They do not want any type of change that will give the people more power of election. Most Republicans are ashamed of Trump. Shouldnt the democrats be the same? Instead both sides continue the same mantra; "Beat the other party,regardless of how terrible our candidate is". Anyone who blindly supports their party are just a bunch of tools.
     
  10. FranchiseBlade

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    I believe votes for third party candidates do count for something real. It is a record of people's displeasure with what the two major parties of done with their nominees. It is a record that people will come out and vote for other candidates lower down on the ballot, but aren't pleased with what the party puts up at the top.

    In fact to vote for a candidate that nobody likes, erases that record. It says to the parties just keep doing what you're doing and we like it.

    I've said I won't vote for Hillary, unless... If Hillary has a chance of losing to Trump in CA, then I'll vote for her. That's highly unlikely, and will use my vote to record of the way that I feel about the candidates and what the party is doing.

    I don't consider that throwing it away.
     
  11. glynch

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    This is pretty much where I am at despite years of arguing with friends who voted for Nader.

    I will not vote for Jill Stein because after all aside from having some good positions what are her qualifications to actually be president? I do not want to encourage the Greens at this point Given the reality wrt to the structure of elections, the Green Party/third party tactic is essentially a spoiler tactic. Granted it can be a real kick in the ass for the Dems to get their crap together.

    I am not quite into throwing elections as the GOP gets worse and worse, but is very tough as the Dems get worse and worse.

    Being in Texas I am thinking of just writing in Bernie Sanders as a sort of compromise as I do not want to encourage the Greens at this point..

    I really don't think judges are a sufficient reason to vote for the Dems in any sort of long horizon and such thinking has gone on too long. Besides corporate Dems will not get us good real Dem Congresses that can get us good judges-- or even a full complement of weak judges if the GOP keeps winning the white working class due to the weak appeal and actions of the corporate Dems for the working class as a whole.

    Regardless the question is how to move beyond Clinton/Dem and GOP/Trump types.
     
  12. Cohete Rojo

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    Typical Hillary Clinton bull****. It's like she's saying "Donald Trump is the devil even though I enabled my husband to rape and sexually assault women and I will never mention how much GS pays me to pledge allegiance toward their goals".

    [rQUOTEr]Hillary Clinton Won’t Say How Much Goldman Sachs CEO Invested With Her Son-in-Law

    WHEN HILLARY CLINTON’S son-in-law sought funding for his new hedge fund in 2011, he found financial backing from one of the biggest names on Wall Street: Goldman Sachs chief executive Lloyd Blankfein.

    The fund, called Eaglevale Partners, was founded by Chelsea Clinton’s husband, Marc Mezvinsky, and two of his partners. Blankfein not only personally invested in the fund, but allowed his association with it to be used in the fund’s marketing.

    The investment did not turn out to be a savvy business decision. Earlier this month, Mezvinsky was forced to shutter one of the investment vehicles he launched under Eaglevale, called Eaglevale Hellenic Opportunity, after losing 90 percent of its money betting on the Greek recovery. The flagship Eaglevale fund has also lost money, according to the New York Times.

    ...[/rQUOTEr]
     
  13. Mr.Scarface

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    Who gives a ****? That is her son-in-law, not her or Bill. Bernie Sanders is so focus on Wall Street....the problem is.....he doesnt understand......the economy and jobs depends on wall street and big business. Sanders is a one issue candidate who doesnt have an answer how he would fix his one issue.
     
  14. Cohete Rojo

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    I imagine the women Bill raped and sexually assualt give a ****. Second, she has already stated she will put her rapey husband in charge of the economy. So we know she is prone to giving kickbacks. Why then should we not expect a similar kickback for her son-in-law?

    Corruption is corruption just as rape is rape.
     
  15. bobrek

    bobrek Politics belong in the D & D

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    If only it was the elusive Donald Trymp running.....
     
  16. Bobbythegreat

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    I'd vote for Donald Trymp over Donald Trump any day.
     
  17. bobrek

    bobrek Politics belong in the D & D

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    I may commit voter fraud in order to do so...
     
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    The sadness in the anchor's voice says it all.
     
  19. BigDog63

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    Hence the problem she has. Lots of even Dems don't feel she is trustworthy.

    Now if only the Repubs hadn't picked a candidate with essentially the very same issue...
     
  20. Deckard

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    Who did Bill rape? What absolute crap. You sound like Rush Limbaugh for the last 20 years on a bad day. Congratulations.
     

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