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Lebron chokes again

Discussion in 'NBA Dish' started by Rockets Pride, Feb 13, 2011.

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  1. RedRedemption

    RedRedemption Member

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    No dude.
    In 2007 LeBron choked and is not a real superstar.
    In 2011 he was the sole reason for his team's loss (this is the only one I kind of agree with, he was horrible this series)
    In 2012 the refs jobbed the Thunder and handed LeBron a chip.
    In 2013 Ray Allen saved LeBron's sorry ass, LeBron contributed nothing.
    In 2014 LeBron is a garbage stat chaser that doesn't make his teammates better.
    In 2015 LeBron is a garbage stat chaser that doesn't make his teammates better.

    He is 2-5. Sure.
    But its annoying when people clearly have low expectations of a player, like rock bottom low. Clearly in the haters minds he is a choker and a loser, but yet 2-5 is unacceptable? From their perspective 2-5 should be a miracle considering how bad they assume he is.

    Exact same thing has happened to Curry last season and will happen again this season (win or loss).

    This just speaks for itself, clearly an agenda.
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    Cavs have yet to lose because of LBJ.

    Cavs lose because Kryie and Love choked, again.

    When you do see LBJ go 3 for 19 and do nothing else?

    WHen do you see LBJ go for 1 for 9 and do nothing else?

    His "Superstar" teammates does
     
  3. Carl Herrera

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    Irving and Love were the ones doing most of the choking last night.
     
  4. TEXNIFICENT

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    Let's not rewrite history, Jordan played the majority of the 80s and didn't sniff the Finals because Detroit and Boston were in their prime. Jordan was there and didn't get it done! He got his ass kicked. No shame it happens. Kobe played before and after Phil and 0 titles. Bottom line they are ZERO FOR LIFE without a Hall of Fame head coach. Coaching matters. Quality organizations matter. To say otherwise is nonsense.If you just hate LeBron fine, but don't quote Finals records and act like you've dropped knowledge. Show me a title that Jordan, Kobe or Duncan has won without a Hall of Fame head coach and a top notch organization and I'll give you props. Until then you just hate LeBron James and really I'm good with that too.
     
  5. Rockets Pride

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    You can make the same case for the coaches dude.
    Phil didn't win until MJ.
    Pop didn't win until Duncan.

    So can you argue that MJ, Shaq, and Kobe made Phil a hall of fame coach? Yes you absolutely can argue that.

    Same for Pop. He never won without Duncan. Duncan never won with out Pop.
     
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    So what you're saying is Kobe, Duncan, and MJ could win championships with Mike Brown.... O wait..
     
  7. roslolian

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    MJ didn't win until Phil what's your point?

    This whole "lebron is a choker" is just BS posted by Kobe fanboys who can't accept LBJ is now the 2nd best GOAT perimeter player behind MJ, in fact he's practically the "MJ" of this generation the next best guy isn't even close and doesn't have 1 ring yet.

    He's a 4 time MVP, 2 time Finals MVP and 2 time champion. His Finals appearances are signs of greatness because a couple of those he had lottery level teams (the Cavs team who were so bad they got Irving after he left and the Cavs team with injured Love and Irving), and the finals percentages (2-5, 5-1 etc) is one of the stupidest uses of statistics I have seen because other players didn't even get in the finals, are you saying a player who got in the finals is a bigger choker than a player who got eliminated earlier? If Lebron died today he'd be the 2nd most awarded player since MJ, he is only 31 years and can still play for 5+ more years. He has nothing to prove, everyone doubting him is just dumb because a guy doesn't collect this many awards for being a choker/loser etc and the overwhelming consensus is he is a great player. Are you just smarter than the rest of the NBA world for thinking otherwise? Are you just way dumber for arguing about something that is practically a fact at this point?

    4 time MVP a choker and loser....yeah right :rolleyes:
     
  8. Steve_Francis_rules

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    I notice you left Magic off your list. He was better than Kobe or Duncan and lost in the Finals four times.
     
  9. zeeshan2

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    This thread is going to be even nastier now
     
  10. Rockets Pride

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    This reminds me a lot of the Heat's 2014 series against the Spurs... when Wade and Bosh started playing like **** In the middle of the Finals I thought it was because of age/being tired after a long season.... but Irving and Love in the WCF? No way it's age, this seems like it might connected to Lebron(even though he's putting up good #'s).

    I know it doesn't seem it, but is it really a coincidence two all stars turn into role players next to Lebron in two series on two different teams? Idk.
     
  12. RedRedemption

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    This is the same kind of reasoning that people used to blame Dwight and Harden for us being so bad.
    In our case, key role players regressed. We didn't find the same hotstreak we did in last year's playoffs.
    In Cleveland's case, Love and Kyrie are in a slump.
     
  13. zeeshan2

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    Needs to take over more; his Iso effiency was barely in the top half of the league and he's 33 percent on shots away from the rim. Needs to start making those uncontested jumpers the Raptors keep giving him
     
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    Are we all just going to ignore the fact that LeBron refused to attack when he had Lowry on him? I know Lowry has a phat azz, which allows him to hold his ground on a back-down, but that had shades of JJ Barrea in the 2011 Finals all over it.
     
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    Lebron had Lowry on the low block but wasnt doing **** with it, kept deferring to teammates. He gets grilled for it. Harden does the same thing but defers to the brick bros.
     
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    Lebron haters do have high standards for Lebron.

    Everytime the Cavs lost and it didn't matter Lebron did choke or not, they claim Lebron choke. LOL
     
  17. RedRedemption

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    I worry because if LeBron ever does end up winning a championship for Cleveland some of the haters here might die from an aneurysm.

    Be well.
     
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    Not really a coach at the time in Miami, but Pat Riley was in Miami overseeing things.
     
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