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Hillary Clinton vs. Donald Trump

Discussion in 'BBS Hangout: Debate & Discussion' started by peleincubus, Apr 19, 2016.

  1. TheRealist137

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    Trump got a bump when the entire party rallied behind him. Hilary will get the same bump when Sanders bows out. Moreover Trump can win the popular vote all he wants, but he actually has no path to the presidency in the electoral map.
     
  2. Cohete Rojo

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    Could you explain what you mean?
     
  3. vlaurelio

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    have you met Jopat?
     
  4. michecon

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    I was reading Hillary's Quora answer, and it makes me understand instantly why many people don't like her.
     
  5. SamFisher

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    if you believe 30% of Latinos will vote for Trump, you should believe he's in the lead.
     
  6. Newlin

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    This is hilarious. Never has a candidate recieved less support from his own party than Trump. You people.:grin:
     
  7. SamFisher

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    Exactly, which means that there's a lot of room for people to say "heh, well he's a racist dip**** but you know what, maybe he's not so bad after all - go TEAM R!" - which is precisely what is happening.
     
  8. FranchiseBlade

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    What I've seen so far looks bad for Hillary. It's very early, but she's making decisions of someone who is scared.

    When Trump came out early and called the Egypt Air thing a Muslim terrorist attack, Hillary basically followed and did the same thing, because she was afraid of looking weak.

    She should have shown a sharp contrast.

    If her whole campaign is this way, it will allow Trump to set the agenda and talking points. Hillary will lose.

    If the Democratic party wants to win, they need to get a unified message, and it shouldn't be about the issues. It should be about Trump. Show his sexist comments, get all of those that aren't Hillary to attack him on it. Show his lies about never settling court cases, about self-financing his primary campaign, etc. They need to just hammer him on it constantly. Hillary should not really partake in that kind of stuff, though.

    Trump will be on the defensive. He'll strike back in stupid ways like attacking Bill Clinton and talking about stuff that doesn't matter. Then Hillary can highlight his lack of presidential bearing.

    But as long as he's allowed to set the agenda, he has the advantage.
     
  9. pirc1

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    If Trump gets elected, we deserve whatever is coming next, at least he is not Cruz. Many people elected Republican congress that does not care for the working class very much, but now they are angry and want to elect Trump, this is pure LOLZ.
     
  10. JuanValdez

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    Small comfort. He's still Senator from Texas. He's shown he can create his own mischief in the Legislature. Add Trump in the White House on top of that?
     
  11. Sweet Lou 4 2

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    Yup - Hillary is going to lose this election, I have sensed it all along. She is too weak to take on Trump.
     
  12. robbie380

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    Is Trump more to the left than Hillary?
     
  13. Air Langhi

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    How the can you say trump is Left of anything. A racist women hating guy can't be left of anything.
     
  14. JuanValdez

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    I would say Trump doesn't really have an ideology, so he can be neither left or right of anything.
     
  15. bnb

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    left behind?
     
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    Hillary's hawkish variety of social corporate liberalism raises this issue.

    Sad to say but on issues like support for trade pacts that hurt ordinary American workers and permanent stupid regime change wars the answer may be "yes" as "left" is commonly thought of. Trump doesn't make money directly off of wars and with a lot of his properties in the US he doesn't profit that much from lowering the income of American workers by making them compete with foreign sweat shops.
     
  17. robbie380

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    I'm going back to what he was saying a decade ago also. He was somewhat consistent back then. His family has always been Democrat too. #newyorkvalues Also there's the interesting group of people that seem to be either for Trump or Bernie. It's strange to me, but it seems to be a significant number.

    But I can agree with you as well. He is really all over the place now and doesn't seem to fall in line with right or left. I'm not even sure where the immigration/border issue would truly lie on the political spectrum. Saint Reagan of the right and the Bush clan were pro immigrant and pro amnesty.
     
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    I don't think Hillary is trying to move closer to Trump. She is as hawkish if not more hawkish than Trump on foreign policy, he just moved first and made her look like she's following. No one is going to outflank Hillary to the right on foreign policy, except in speeches.

    This woman does not care about America, she just wants to be president. She had it good with Bernie, who rarely and meekly made personal attacks on her (and he should be applauded for that).

    Trump is going to shred her with personal attacks that uninformed voters will find difficult to scrutinize, but the thing is she is so much more rational and intelligent than Trump it probably won't be enough to dethrone her.

    Up until now, I would still be shocked if Trump won. I have greater faith in Americans than that.
     
  19. Deckard

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    Bull****. It's so early, it's ridiculous. Hillary is still battling in the primaries because Sanders is getting off on the attention he's getting. He's lost. The sooner he starts dialing down the rhetoric and promoting party unity, the sooner the Democratic Party can start fighting against the madness that is the current Republican Party. Instead, Sanders is acting like he still has a chance and is not only misleading his supporters, but going after the Democratic Party itself. Now he's supporting the primary opponent of the Chairperson of the Party, an act of gross stupidity driven by his ego. He is essentially attacking the Democratic party, not just Clinton, because he is not a Democrat. All the man is doing is making the GOP's job easier.

    Again, in regards to your statement, bull****, with all due respect. Hillary Clinton will get the Democratic nomination and she will defeat Mr. Donald "The Liar" Trump. Tip Jar bet, $50 bucks.
     
  20. Scarface281

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    Actually Trump is to the left of Hillary on issues. He might push her left on some like Bernie did. And a "racist women hating" guy attack is so weak. Especially when women came out in his defense. Not even a trump supporter but the bias shown in the media and then folks just repeat the same media headlines. Trump has been making the media look like clowns. It's like everything Trump supporters have been saying keeps coming true.

    The train is not gonna stop.
     

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