The question about Ed Davis is who do you play him next to? Davis is pretty much strictly a high % but low volume interior finisher-- all lay ups and dunks with an occasional hook shot or floater when he had to throw something up and couldn't get all the way to the basket. Not only is he not going to make a jump shot, he also doesn't do some of the extra creative stuff that other guys do even when they are not good jump shooters. On defense, he blocks some shots and rebounds, but he isn't really a great rim protector and is a bit too skinny to bang with the really big strong guys. So, playing him next to most big centers will tend to screw up offensive spacing while playing him to a PF puts your team at a disadvantage against bigger teams and does not provide enough rim protection. He can probably do a decent enough job as a backup C like Brandan Wright was for Dallas. Few opposing teams are gonna have a good backup big guy to really push Davis around and you are highly unlikely to get elite rim protection from any backup big anyway.
That's a completely false statement. Ridiculous in fact. Alexey Shved had a PER well above 19 when he was at Philly earlier this season putting up very mediocre numbers. 16.8 MPG, 9.9 PPG, 2.7 APG, 40% FG%, 30% 3P %. What about these numbers suggests Shved is a player worthy of well above league average PER?? Having a high PER for a bench player who plays limited MINUTES on a bad team is not as hard as you make it seem to be. LOL.
I actually think it's much easier to put up numbers on a bad team, Schved had a freaking PER of 19 in Philly for example. Davis didn't perform well at all on the Grizzlies/Raptors the last couple of years. He has much less floor spacing ability than Jones or DMo which doesn't work well in our offense. I would easily take Jones and/or DMo over Davis, maybe if we lose Smith I'd b open to give him a small deal to just grab rebounds and get garbage buckets in the 2nd unit.
of course its easier to put up numbers on a bad team. someone has to do it but it doesn't make you a good player. difference is always what players are really contributing to winning habits
There are couple former Lakers from last year's team who could be the reference to Ed Davis's situation. Meeks and Bazemore. Meeks got a fat contract from the Piston in the offseason for 6 mils per and we know how well it worked out and don't forget Meeks is in much valuable wing position than Davis - nowadays decent wing players can put up some number is very hard to find. Bazemore on the other hand, went for 2 mils to the Hawks and his scoring dropped from almost 13 pts last year to 5 pts. I expect Davis will be in a similar situation like Bazemore and probably worth 2-3 mils per for a 2-3 years deal. He also had some attitude issues in Memphis hence he was let go without an offer.
Good athletic beanpole to have on your team.. Doesn't do much wrong, finishes well around the bucket, brings weak side help... No More than 7m a year really
Depends on what numbers you are talking about. PER is an efficiency number. So, it's much more difficult to be efficient on bad teams. Want proof? There are 15 teams with losing records in the NBA. Out of those teams there is a grand total of 29 players who have played 1500 minutes and have a PER of 16 or greater. By contrast, there are 15 teams with winning records in the NBA. There are 44 players who have played 1500 minutes and have a PER of 16 or greater on those winning teams. That's why I'm pointing out Davis' PER. He's been ultra-efficient on a bad team and that takes work. Agreed. He underperformed. But that weighs less on his free agent value than what he has done this season. Yeah. We're not talking about his fit in our offense. The question was what will he get on the free agent market. I could argue that he doesn't give us less floor spacing ability than Jones because Jones can't shoot outside of 3 feet from the basket either. You would counter that argument with "but Jones has this wonderful handle", which is true. And I would counter you that that handle actually hurts us in half-court offense because Jones takes up valuable seconds dribbling around instead of moving the basketball by passing it. As far as DMo goes, he's a different player. Obviously the better floor spacer. But Ed Davis is superior to him on the defensive end and far superior to him on the glass. So if they were all free agents on the market this summer...how much do you think Ed Davis will get and how much do you think Jones and DMo will get offered?
It's really hard to tell how good Davis could be because of the dysfunctional coaching of Scott. Davis is a great pnr finisher but Scott mostly refused to play him with Lin. He's played almost exactly the same minutes w/Lin he has with Price even though price has played 700+ fewer total minutes than Lin. He hardly ever fumbles passes(career 1.9 tov per 100 poss compared to 3.3 for Asik) and he doesn't have to dunk everything to score. He has a soft touch off the glass when he can't get to the rim. He can finish at the rim even when he gets the pass outside of the restricted area. Guys like Asik and even Howard these days almost need to catch the pass @ the basket to finish. Again it's really hard to tell how good/bad Davis is defensively because the Lakers have a lot of bad defensive players with slow foot speed like Boozer, Kobe, Hill and Kelly.
I think a team wil offer $8m a year to Davis and Lin together and ask them to split it up however they want.
All I can say is I'd rather be paying Davis $7 million per right now then to be paying Corey Brewer. Ed Davis has one of the most value contacts in the Association. Too bad we didn't go get him.
