I also find it curious that there is not a single headline on the front page of the huffington post that shows Bernie winning. Democrats are just going to ignore that she is still losing states and is a weak candidate.
They hope that if they ignore it, maybe it didn't' happen. Well it did and they will be end up regretting the free pass they're giving her.
This certainly does seem to be similar to what put some CIA whistleblowers in jail and led to Gerneral Petreus being put in jail.
lol this "political system" is complete corrupt joke anyways so who cares. This isn't a democracy anymore, its an Oligarchy. That's why part of me hopes Trump can win, simply because he would destroy what is in my opinion a pitiful state of politics currently in the US.
https://www.washingtonpost.com/poli...4a1f56-10b6-11e6-8967-7ac733c56f12_story.html Anti-Trump Republicans confront a dilemma: Are they ready to help elect Clinton? INDIANAPOLIS — Anti-Donald Trump Republicans are starting to consider whether their opposition to a Trump presidency is so strong that they would be prepared to fight him in the general election — even if that means helping put an avowed enemy, Hillary Clinton, in the Oval Office. One strategy under discussion is to focus on helping down-ballot GOP candidates while sitting out the presidential race under the belief that Trump will lose to Clinton no matter what. A more drastic and difficult option: rallying support for a third-party candidate who could uphold traditional Republican positions but would almost certainly steal votes from Trump. “You have to bet on sanity,” said GOP strategist Stuart Stevens, who helped lead the campaign of 2012 nominee Mitt Romney. “If this is one of those moments in history where for various reasons the party has to play out nominating someone who is completely unelectable . . . so be it.” The dilemma came into focus Tuesday night, when Trump scored a decisive victory in Indiana over Sen. Ted Cruz of Texas — prompting Cruz to say he was dropping out of the race — despite an all-out effort by the anti-Trump forces to turn the state into a firewall to halt the billionaire’s march toward the nomination. Trump triumphantly declared in an interview that the so-called “never Trump” movement was “dying a fast death.” Some anti-Trump Republicans believe the current strategy shouldn’t be abandoned until Trump actually wins the 1,237 delegates he needs to clinch the nomination. But he has now won seven straight primaries, including the latest in a state where his foes spent millions of dollars under the belief that he was vulnerable. “Indiana further confirmed the ‘stop Trump’ efforts didn’t work and spending even more resources in an effort keep him from the nomination will just be expensive political therapy or theatre at this point,” former Minnesota governor Tim Pawlenty, a former Marco Rubio backer who is now neutral, said in an email. The difficulty of the GOP’s path forward was clear in the hours before and after the voting here. Even as Trump has tried to assert himself as the presumptive GOP nominee, he allowed his already bitter rivalry with Cruz to darken further. Trump on Tuesday invoked a National Enquirer report alleging that Cruz’s father had been spotted with Lee Harvey Oswald around the time of the assassination of President John F. Kennedy. Cruz called Trump a “pathological liar” and refuted his claim. Cruz announced hours later that he was suspending his campaign. But the continued nastiness prompted some anti-Trump Republicans to look toward a once-unthinkable prospect — under*cutting the GOP nominee in ways that could make way for a Clinton presidency. “The GOP is going to nominate for President a guy who reads the National Enquirer and thinks it’s on the level,” tweeted Mark Salter, a former aide to Sen. John McCain (R-Ariz.). Then he added a Clinton campaign slogan: “I’m with her.” For some Republicans, the prospect of a President Clinton is more palatable than a President Trump — not because they like Clinton, but because they could fight her on familiar terrain, rather than watching an unpredictable Trump use the power of the White House to remake the GOP. Conservative blogger Erick Erickson, a staunch Trump critic, said he and other activists plan to hold a conference call Wednesday to discuss strategy moving forward. Among the ideas on the table is rallying behind a third-party challenger, an admittedly difficult task because of logistical hurdles involving such things as fundraising and securing spots on state ballots. Erickson said that a more likely option would be letting Trump run and, these opponents believe, lose on his own in November. “There are a number of us who can’t bring ourselves to vote for him, and there’s more and more polling showing just how badly he would cause the Republicans to lose other races,” Erickson said. Either plan would mark a dramatic shift from the prevailing approach among anti-Trump groups to try and block him from the nomination by selectively targeting him in states where Cruz or Ohio Gov. John Kasich have the best chance of beating him. Indiana was a state where they saw a chance to slow the mogul. Such groups as Our Principles PAC and the Club for Growth together spent $3.2 million on anti-Trump ads in the run-up to Tuesday’s primary — about half the total spending by independent organizations in the state. But even before Tuesday, there were signs that donors are losing their appetites to finance the stop-Trump efforts. Anti-Trump super PACs spent just $4.8 million on TV ads and mailers in April, down from $21.7 million in March and nearly $11 million in February, according to Federal Election Commission filings. In all, anti-Trump groups have pummeled the Republican front-runner with more than $43 million in TV commercials, leaflets and paid phone calls since the beginning of the campaign. But nearly all of those efforts came in January, long after Trump had been riding high in GOP polls. One of the anti-Trump groups, #NeverTrump, released a statement late Tuesday from strategist Rory Cooper acknowledging that Trump’s Indiana win “makes the road ahead more challenging.” Cooper said the group will “continue to seek opportunities to oppose his nomination,” but he appeared to look ahead to the group’s role in the general election. “A strong Never Trump movement is critical to protecting Republican incumbents and down-ballot candidates, by distinguishing their values and principles from that of Trump, and protecting them from a wave election,” he said. Katie Packer, chair of the Our Principles PAC, said late Tuesday that, despite the Indiana results, a “substantial number of delegates remain up for grabs in this highly unpredictable year” and that the weeks before the June California primary allow time in which Trump can “continue to disqualify himself in the eyes of voters.” Many anti-Trump Republicans, such as Stanley Hubbard, a Minnesota media mogul and major donor who has given to Our Principles PAC, have concluded it is too late for a third-party bid to save Republicans. Hubbard wants to see the Republican race play out all the way until June 7, when the final contests are held, he said. “Until you get the number, you’re not the candidate, and close only counts in horseshoes,” said Hubbard. Cruz had vowed to keep campaigning so long as he has a path to the nomination. His only possibility is a contested convention, an outcome that looks less likely after Trump’s win in Indiana. The next primary will be in Nebraska next Tuesday, where one of the two Republican senators, Ben Sasse, is a leading critic of Trump. Sasse declined to be interviewed about his plans but signaled that he would continue trying to rally votes against Trump in the primary. “I plan to keep doing what Nebraskans elected me to do: Tell the truth that America’s greatness isn’t found in a strongman’s narcissism but in our Constitution’s celebration of limited government, natural rights, free speech, and equal opportunity,” he said.
This is a question for everyone but particularly for those who support Trump and think he will win the general. What path of victory do you seem for him to win? What states do you see him taking that will get him to 270 electoral college votes? My business partner and myself were discussing this last night and neither of us could really see a path to victory for Trump. My business partner felt that Trump could certainly make it very close in the popular vote but going state by state it's difficult to see how he could win over enough states. My own opinion is that the final vote will be somewhere between a 7% to 10% Clinton win but it will be a landslide in terms of electoral college. Obviously this is speculative and much could change between now and November but all things being equal I see Trump winning the Republican stronghold of the South and maybe flipping one of the Rust Belt states but unable to make inroads in the Pacific coast and Northern States while losing states like VA, CO, FL and considering how much he's pissed off Hispanics AZ.
No, Democrats are ignoring Bernie because he is yesterday's news and essentially irrelevant, no matter how much flailing he does between now and the convention. Bernie has a chance to get with the program and make himself actually matter, but he refuses to take it because he can't get over his own ego and that tiny window is slamming shut.
I like this way of thinking. If Trump wins, well at least Hillary isn't President. If Hillary wins, well at least Trump isn't President. Not sure who I'm voting for now. Good news is that since I live in Texas, it probably won't matter. Guess I'll just vote against all incumbents (who are contested) and write in Hakeem Olajuwon for President.
It is basic math. Clinton received 39 delegates in Indiana and Sanders 44. He actually LOST ground last night. The Democratic nominee is already known and has been known for a month. The election that was still up in the air was the Republican nomination, and Indiana was a key state to deciding whether there would be a contested convention or not. Donald Trump won larger than expected, and Ted Cruz suspended his campaign. THAT is what is the big news. Now we get ready for Clinton vs. Trump. I am curious to see if Clinton chooses Elizabeth Warren, Tim Kaine or someone else.
I think it will be far closer than 7-10% in the general election, that is a landslide victory, rare. It has happened, Hoover and Landon and of course Goldwater all lost by an even larger margin. I believe that Mondale was within 7-10 points. My guess is it is a 3-4 point victory for Clinton. Trump will make it close. He is charismatic and most of the people that are really offended are Sanders nuts and young people. Neither group is likely to have a large number showing up at the polls. As for where can Trump win? A vast majority of the South (including Florida & Texas) and some states in the rust belt. He won't win many (if any) states in the NE; but could pick off some states in the SW. His rhetoric in places like Arizona and New Mexico will alienate Hispanic and young voters in those places, but don't overlook how many white/conservative voters there are in those states and they will be very motivated to win. Clinton will be the favorite, and should be.... but the media has so far covered Trump far more, and he is a far more interesting story than Clinton.
“If we must have an enemy at the head of Government, let it be one whom we can oppose, and for whom we are not responsible, who will not involve our party in the disgrace of his foolish and bad measures.” -- Alexander Hamilton
People are underestimating how seriously Trump can pivot in the GE, and seriously underestimating how fickle and frankly dumb the majority of voters are. Trump can honestly do a complete 180 and it wouldn't surprise me. Nobody knows what Trump really believes because he has no political record. I'm of the mindset that he will say/do anything to win the election. The majority of his statements are phony IMO. In the general election I expect to see a completely different Trump, one who will likely say as much BS as he can in order to gain support for minorities and women, and I think those groups will eat it up.
agree ultimately it's an indictment of a rotten, stupid, immoral electorate that could nominate two such despicable people to be POTUS I put nothing past them.
I don't think you really will after watching Hillary for the next 5 months. You'll probably gulp a pint of whiskey and walk into the voting booth and select Trump. I mean, it doesn't count if you can't remember it right?
I like what I'm reading/hearing so far about https://twitter.com/AP4LP Gary Johnson I could happily vote for as well.
I don't think Hillary's VP will be Warren for two major reason: First, Elizabeth Warren would have wiped the floor with the democrat field if she had run. Why would she want to be VP when she passed on being president? Secondly, Hillary probably doesn't want to choose a VP that is going to completely outshine her. That would be a bad look. Everyone who is making predictions based off of conventional thinking is forgetting about the power and skill of Donald Trump. He got the nomination in a way most people thought would be impossible. He just re-wrote the book. We haven't seen what a general election strategy is going to look like from Trump yet, and I am not about to count him out. Hillary's unfavorable numbers are pretty set in stone. Trump's unfavorable numbers can and will be reduced.
