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[Woj] Van Gundy is at the top of the Rockets’ list of candidates

Discussion in 'Houston Rockets: Game Action & Roster Moves' started by J.R., Apr 18, 2016.

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Would you be okay with bringing Jeff Van Gundy back?

  1. Yes — bring him back.

    88.9%
  2. No — been there, done that.

    11.1%
  1. daywalker02

    daywalker02 Member

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    as long as he is not gathering his ex Knickerbockers here

    oh well they are all retired!
     
  2. burnshroom

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    And I think this was more CD than JVG, I mean he was making the moves... maybe to appease JVG, but hopefully Morey knows better.
     
  3. WhoMikeJames

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    People need to remember JVG didn't have much to work with. Look at those rosters from 2005, just awful. I'll take a flyer on him
     
  4. linvetb6

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    The guy has heart. something we're missing.
     
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  5. Sweet Lou 4 2

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    I think the idea that he is allergic to offense is a complete myth. He played the team based on the personal he had - which was Yao Ming, T-mac, and a bunch of scrubs. When you have a defensive stalwart like Yao who was the best post player since Olajuwon...and someone who can't really run up and down and play fast - you have to adjust the offense to that. He played a defensive game because that's the best he could do. Rick Adelman didn't do any better with his masterful offense by the way. Proof that the personnel was the issue.


    Walton would be a great head coach. Comparing him to JBB isn't a great one. Walton still lead that team to the greatest start in NBA history - he knows that offense and he knows how to defend. He also knows what Kerr and when you are groomed by a winner, you usually go on to be successful. JBB was groomed by McHale.

    I rest my case.
     
  6. Nick

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    95% of the dissenters keep focusing on offensive game plans... When in reality, this team suffers most from effort and defensive lapses.

    The offense will be there... In fact, probably will create more scoring opportunities based on defensive stops alone (provided you have personnel that can run a fast break.... And not try and shoot contested 3's vs. lay ups).
     
  7. Nick

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    He will have a completely different team.... Different skill sets... Different personalities... Different everything.

    The best coaches (Riley, Phil, Pop) adapt or create a system best suited to the personnel they have. The ones that go full blast and try and re-create what worked elsewhere, with lesser personnel, get lesser results (that includes Atlanta).

    Walton won't prove anything till you see how he handles adversity and is forced to make adjustments... Again, he hasn't proven jack squat by not messing up the greatest team in NBA history. If you suggest it's *because* of him that they're that great... You truly are clueless.
     
  8. tinman

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    What about Scottie Brooks?
     
  9. Nick

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    Pretty much the same things people complained about with McHale, you're going to get with Brooks.

    He's going to preach to play harder... With more effort. His x's/o's are limited.

    It's really hard to get fired from a low profile city that LOVES the team/coaches/players regardless, when your best player was injured... And yet Brooks did because he has legitimate coaching deficiencies.
     
  10. dakeem1

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    WTF? Never heard a rockets fan NOT name Rudy T their favourite Rockets coach of all time.
     
  11. Pat

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    HMMMM, How about Rudy. Even if he is too old/ineffective, at least we would rescue him from Lakerland and bring a hero home.
     
  12. Nick

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    Rudy certainly had the most success... but a lot of that was also attributed to having Hakeem. He was not a great coach from strictly an x's/o's standpoint... and that showed as the talent on his roster started to dwindle, and they started losing some games. And don't get people started on Rudy the GM... constantly looking for the next Rudy T (drafting Turckan and then Boki).

    His run with the Lakers was also plagued with questionable coaching philosophies.

    The most successful coaches have both components -- good strategic minds, but also able to manage personalities and maintain chemistry as well as possible. On the flip side, you can be as smart and strategic as possible... but if you have no idea how to control your team and get players to play hard for you, you're not going to win.
     
  13. marky :)

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    I don't think JVG has the patience to handle a roster with JSmoove, B-Easy, T_ones, and possibly Dwert Howard all at once.
     
  14. J.R.

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    Good thing all those guys are free agents! ;)

    To be technically correct:
    •Howard has a player option
    •Smith is a unrestricted free agent
    •Jones is a restricted free agent
    •Beasley is non-guaranteed
     
  15. saleem

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    I don't like his micro management on the court, but he did give freedom to Camby and Sprewell when the Knicks went to the 1999 NBA Finals.
    JVG would help to develop a structure which is greatly lacking and hold players accountable.

    Morey and Les have got to stop interfering with their 3 is the way to score philosophy. That is the job of the head coach. McHale was an ok coach at best. Lack of discipline was the biggest problem this year with him and JB.

    Will Morey, Les and JVG be able to work together? They are strong willed, and may butt heads. Flexibility is the key here.

    I am ok with having JVG back in Houston. Anything is better than what is going on right now.
     
  16. waytookrzy079

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    I'm pretty sure JSmoove and T_ones wont be coming back next season.

    Dwight may not even opt out to collect his pay check cuz i would doubt any time is stupid enough to offer him anything more than $7-10/year. However, if Dwight is back, whether it be JVG or Thibs, you can almost guarantee that Dwight would be more involved in the offense.

    I would just hope for Dwight's sake to develop a 12-15 ft jump shot if what McHale said about his back is true (hard for Dwight to post cuz he has a hard time getting low due to his back issues).
     
  17. eman

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    Would love JVG or Thibs. I wouldn't mind Kelvin Sampson, Shaka Smart, Jim Boeheim, or Coach K from the college ranks. Might as well face the fact: we do need to blow the roster up-- get rid of Harden, Howard, Smoove, Brewer, and TJones-- and give our next coach some young talent to mold. I hope Morey has the courage, permission, and analytics to do this.
     
  18. Dave_78

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    I would love to bring JVG back. I never wanted him gone the first time.

    The major problem that remains even if he brings back defense is our offense. This team isn't winning a Championship with Harden-iso offense regardless of the defense. The NBA is all but screaming at James that he won't get calls in the playoffs and we know without free throws, he is a mess.

    The Rockets still need to find a way to make Harden give up the ball and then move without it. And if they accomplish that, we need players who know what to do with the ball when they get it. Right now, I say D-Mo is the only guy who fits the offense to build around Harden.
     
  19. davidio840

    davidio840 Member

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    Agreed.

    What do you think about Beasley? I think he could fit if he actually got to play. He would def take pressure off Haren. Beasley can create his own shot all day.
     
  20. Victorious

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    for people that didn't like van gundy's offense, is it worst than what we do currently?
     

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