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Stephen Jackson is still free

Discussion in 'Houston Rockets: Game Action & Roster Moves' started by wizkid83, Sep 24, 2003.

  1. wizkid83

    wizkid83 Contributing Member

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    The dude's option is looking slim, I don't see why we wont sign him up, even if it's just for 1 year.

    http://sports.yahoo.com/nba/news?slug=freeagentfolly&prov=cnnsi&type=lgns
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    So you're an NBA GM seeking to add one final piece to your roster for the 2003-04 season? Maybe an athletic guy who can run the floor, shoot the three and play more than one position? How about a guy with playoff experience? That would be nice.

    So you start perusing the list of available free agents, only to find the usual assortment of journeymen, castoffs and over-the-hill types. Then, suddenly, one name jumps out at you: Stephen Jackson. Stephen Jackson?

    You mean the the 6-foot-8 swingman who started for last year's NBA champion Spurs? The guy who averaged 12.8 points and 4.1 rebounds during the playoffs? The guy who poured in 17 points in Game 6 of the NBA Finals, helping the Spurs clinch the title?

    OK, so maybe Jackson wasn't exactly the strongest link on Tim Duncan's chain gang. So maybe the 25-year-old basketball nomad, still coming into his own as an NBA player, sometimes treated the rock like it was laced with plutonium. And maybe he's still massaging the marks on his neck from coach Gregg Popovich's quick hook in favor of Emanuel Ginobili in the Finals.


    But, still, he's a pretty big name to be waiting by the phone at this late juncture, isn't he? "He started for an NBA championship team last year," notes Magic GM John Gabriel. "For him to still be out there, I would say that's pretty unusual, yeah."

    What happened?

    Call it bad planning. Or bad timing. Or maybe a little of both.

    After last season Jackson had a chance to re-sign with the Spurs. Although Popovich wasn't thrilled with Jackson's penchant for turnovers and uneven play, he was willing to reward him for his contributions. The Spurs even offered Jackson, who made $700,000 a year ago, a three-year deal worth around $10 million, according to sources.

    For a team that had been burned badly a few years before by another playoff hero named Jackson -- guard Jaren Jackson, who got a three-year $10 million contract and was never heard from again -- it was a significant risk for the Spurs.

    Instead Jackson and his agent, Dan Fegan, chose to test the market. Denver was interested, but Jackson's asking price (a reported multi-year deal starting at around $4 million) was too rich. The Nuggets instead signed Voshon Lenard and Jon Barry.

    While Fegan worked his magic for fellow client Gilbert Arenas, Jackson's options withered on the vine. Houston, Jackson's hometown team, signed Eric Piatkowski and Adrian Griffin. The Spurs moved on and acquired Hedo Turkoglu and Ron Mercer.

    Now Jackson finds himself sitting at home by the phone. The Hawks, Clippers and Jazz are still possibilities, but none is a sure thing. Atlanta is said to be close to re-signing Jason Terry and Dion Glover. The Clippers already have Quentin Richardson and Corey Maggette. Utah, with Matt Harpring and Andrei Kirilenko, has bigger needs at point guard.

    Jackson certainly will sign with somebody, but probably not for the big payday he was hoping. Meanwhile, San Antonio can hardly be blamed for moving forward. By acquiring Turkoglu and Mercer, each in the final year of his contract, the Spurs added two quality scorers for practically nothing (they gave up only the soon-to-be-retired Danny Ferry) while maintaining $12 million in cap space next summer.

    "Stephen was a significant contributor to our championship run," Spurs GM R.C. Buford said. "He had a scorer's mentality ... and an edge that our team fed off.

    "We did want to bring him back. We made him an offer, but it just didn't work out."

    Gabriel points out that Jackson also appears to be a victim of the new NBA economics. With so many teams at or near the expected luxury tax threshold, there just isn't the same demand for players seeking mid-level money. "A lot of players think they can get it," Gabriel says. "But they find out the market just isn't there."

    We don't know what Jackson is thinking, since he didn't return phone calls seeking comment, but we can assume he'll be OK wherever he winds up. After all, this is a guy who was playing in Venezuela and the CBA just a few years ago and has seen his share of personal heartbreak -- including the beating death of his brother. For him, just playing in the NBA is a blessing.

    But it's unlikely he will find a better situation than the one he could have had this year in San Antonio. By choosing to play the free-agent game, he not only lost a chance to sink roots and play for another championship in his home state. He lost all those open looks gained from playing alongside Tim Duncan.

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    I'm usually not the person asking to make huge moves, I like the team as is and have always asked for support for the current team. But I have to say I really like the guy's game. He plays with heart and comes with playoff experience, he remind me a little bit of a shorter Horry in his prime. He hits big shots, comes up with big plays and does unexpected things. I would love for him to round out the 3, if he start for last years spurs, he can start for this year's rox. Piatowski and A. Griffin aren't true small foward and shouldn't start in that spot. We need Jackson and he's available, why not?
     
  2. RocksMillenium

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    I'd love to have Stephen Jackson, but I'm wondering if he's asking for to much. That would explain why nobody has picked him up. Reportedly Jeff Van Gundy loves him, so hopefully the Rocks can get him.
     
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    We can't afford him man.

    New Subject!
     
  4. wizkid83

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    He's not even getting 4 million dollar offers and training camps starting, we can get him for maybe 2 - 3 mill, it's even that much and much much less than posey. and it's not like we broke the bank with erik and A. G. jeesh, he's actually gettable realistically.

    BTW, he's houstonian, and choosing playing for his hometown team or freaking out while wainting it out (including getting a contract that might not be much better due to no income tax in TX) he should definitely choose the rox.
     
  5. SaVeThEpIgS88

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    lets trade glen rice to utah, and sign stephen jackson to a 1 year contract...
     
  6. couch_pot8o

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    i like him to be in the rox lineup this season. so, we can fill the gap in our sf problem! i just hope he wont expect that much money.
     
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    I would love to get Jackson:cool:
     
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    i was around him a couple weeks ago and he is dying to play anywhere he said he will go anywhere and try out. He wants to be a rocket but i dont think they even have talked to him.
     
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    Francis-Mooch-Wilks
    Cat-Pike-Griffin
    Jackson-Rice-Nachbar
    Eddie-MoT
    Yao-Cato

    That lineup would be so bada$$.

    Having 4 three-point threats (Cat, Pike, Jackson, Rice) wouldn't allow any double teams what so ever.

    Anyways, too expensive.
     
  10. nyquil82

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    i like him enough to say that hes a good posey replacement, but he does make some boneheaded moves, something our team has enough of. if we didnt have an excess number of one dimensional small forwards, he would be on my wishlist under artest and brentbarry. too bad he thinks he's worth more than he really is (or the media portrays that to be so)
     
  11. rockets-#1

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    Jackson is not that good. I'd take anyone of our guys over him, he seems kinda dumb. I remember he got a tech for hangin' on the rim against us last year.:)
     
  12. tierre_brown

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    Stephen Jackson, while a GOOD player, does not fit on this team, IMHO. I mean, we already b**** and moan about the TOs Stevie gets and the 15 too many shots Cuttino takes. Add SJax in the mix, and we'll average 30 TOs a game and Yao will never ever see the ball. He'll forget what a basketball looks like and will go back to China disheartened. Is that what you want?
     
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    Title of thread should be "Stephen Jackson is still available"

    He is anything but FREE. :D
     
  14. Life2Def

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    I don't think stephen jackson is from Houston, I think he's from Port Arthur. Anyway, he'll be a big risk to take with his shooting first mentality, and dumb mistakes but he's a legit starter. If we can get him that'll be fine but if not, oh well.
     
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    We're too loaded at the 3. Nachbar and A Griffin WILL get their minutes. If Rice is here, he's the starter, so there are NO minutes left, especially considering Pike is ready to play some 3.

    Now if we traded Rice for a PF with an expiring contract, then I'd be all for it. I think this can be worked out:

    Rice

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    Crawford or Henderson (Not sure which is expiring)
    Nazr Mohammed


    Then we immediately cut the expiring contract, or leave them on the bench if they won't whine. Then we sign Jackson:

    Yao/Cato/Nazr
    Mo/Griffin/Nazr
    SJaxx/Griffin/Nachbar
    Mobley/Pike
    Francis/Moochie/Wilks (partially guaranteed contract)

    That's a very strong line-up IMO, and if SJaxx decides to play erratically, Griffin, Nachbar and Pike can pickup the slack. At C/PF we're completely set.

    If Moochie in fact is serious about turning things around, I can see them team making 6th seed.
     
  16. xiki

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    Fegan strikes again!
     
  17. wizkid83

    wizkid83 Contributing Member

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    Pike is a 2, and I'm not sold on Nachabar being our starting 3 and I really don't like the idea of griffin or rice filling that role. I like griffin off the bench more and rice........ well he's cap relief. In all honesty if we can get Jackson for about 3 mil I'm all for it.
     
  18. Pat

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    I agree. I stay away from any Fegan clients. I still ahve a bad taset for the previous negotiations.
     
  19. dfoolz

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    Way too many turnovers!! He also likes to dribble too much! That is the last thing this team needs!!NO WAY
     
  20. Alirules

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    Please do not get Sjax

    th guy is a decent role player but he is not that good. he makes horrible mistakes on the court. Man I wish we could've got Ginobli. Yao Steve and Ginobli would a great 123 punch
     

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