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Bernie Sanders 2016 Feel the Bern!

Discussion in 'BBS Hangout: Debate & Discussion' started by glynch, Aug 14, 2015.

  1. Nook

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    Yes, but HE does believe it and so do others.
     
  2. bnb

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    couple of points on Bee's facebook meme:

    1) It's from July 2015. Did anyone even know who Bernie was at that point? What money had he raised other than through Labor Unions?

    2) It includes employees. So it's not Time Warner giving the money. It's people who work there. Does that matter?

    On to New York!
     
  3. Nook

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    A company with 48-49 billion in assets could have a bias for any number of candidates or issues.

    However a donation of $400,000 in light of the total amount of money raised by Hilary and the total number of assets Time Warner has shows that there is very very very little invested into Clinton by Time Warner.
     
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    Maybe 400k is a drop in the bucket for this preseidental primary, but over the past few years in less prominent roles, um yea, that is a significant amount of money.
     
  5. Nook

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    Again....... she has received $400,000 from Time Warner over the last 15-20 years, from a company with almost 50 billion dollars in assets.

    It ISN'T a lot of money for someone running for President and certainly isn't some proof that Time Warner has a vested interest in Hilary Clinton getting elected.

    Hilary Clinton isn't running for mayor or some other low level office.

    It is all just furthering the narrative that everyone is on the take other than Bernie Sanders.
     
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    The fact that there is any money in there is an issue, regardless of what their assets are. The money represents something and no one knows what it is. Thats the whole problem with Hilary. She may be the better of 2 evils, but she is still very much a part of the problem.
     
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    CNN doesn't care if Clinton wins or loses. They are driven by ratings (like all channels except Fusion). They'll pump the Sanders-Clinton race the next week and have a timer in the corner of the screen for the countdown to the Brooklyn debate. Why would they want the race to end if it brings in viewers?
     
  8. Mr.Scarface

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    He has no shot at CA or NY.
     
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    Canidate-----------|Clinton | Sanders
    Pledged delegates-|1,279--|-1,027
    Superdelegates----|469--|-31

    Feel the Bern!
     
  10. Mr.Scarface

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    Bernie has NO plans........he wants to break up the banks......but doesnt know how. WTF? that has been your BIG issue and you don't know how to do it?
     
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    Possibly $400K from Time Warner employees over two presidential runs and two high profile senate runs to July 2015?
     
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    I am not sure if you are aware, but I've heard that the superdelegate count really does not matter until the end essentially; Right now, more supers have pledged onto Clinton but they would swap to Sanders if he wins the pledged delegate count. I think this is what Bill Clinton did back in the last election cycle also when Obama won the pledged delegate count (He put his vote for Obama over Hillary).
     
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    CNN said even if Bernie wins ever state that is left at the 60-40 ratio, he still would not catch Clinton, not that I think he will win every state left, how is he going to get more pledge delegates that Hillary?
     
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    The only way he can win is if he has significant victories all the way to the finish and super delegates that are currently pledged to Clinton flip to Sanders. That's it.
     
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    Superdelegates will decide the race and they can choose anyone they want. If they go with Bernie, he wins, if they go with Hillary, she wins. It's set up to where they can pick whoever they want at the convention pretty much no matter what happens in the primaries.
     
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    Yes, but why would super delegates switch their vote if Hillary is ahead in pledge delegates? They are 400+ to 30 for Hillary already.
     
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    Anything can happen in an election. There was a time that Howard Dean was going to run away with the nomination.....till he wasn't.

    Any number of things could happen and it's not like she isn't under investigation by the FBI.
     
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    If he wins by 60% in California, NY and Pennsylvania alone (just 3 states) while tying in every other state, that alone would basically make him up the lead by making him up 170+ delegates.

    Not that I believe that is realistic, but the notion that it's impossible for him to catch up is simply false. CNN is owned by Time Warner, which is and has been one of her biggest career donors and supporters, they have a dog in the fight, expect them to try to count Bernie out whenever they get the opportunity to.

    If Sanders can win big in California, tie in NYK/Pennsylvania and win big in the smaller states he could still catch up.
     
  20. Nook

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    So does Sanders send you all the same ignorant talking points?
     

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