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More proof that the BBC is a liberal propaganda machine

Discussion in 'BBS Hangout: Debate & Discussion' started by bigtexxx, Sep 17, 2003.

  1. wouldabeen23

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    You need your own comedy show....seriously--call it "The happy fun Gobsmacked hour with T_J" Bring on guests and then, after you have *owened* them, you could say" You just got GOBSMACKED...biatch!"
     
  2. Rocketman95

    Rocketman95 Hangout Boy

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    He's making up words now, folks.
     
  3. ROXTXIA

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    And yet if we started a thread for every lie from FOX, or everything that newspapers didn't print in the U.S., we'd have no server space.

    And yet the BBC is a liberal propaganda machine.

    Notice how if a legit network or media source makes a mistake it gets plastered everywhere one thousand fold? But when Bush gave the nod to Venezuela's oil cartel to overthrow Venezuela's elected President, we never read about it (see Palast's "The Best Democracy Money Can Buy").

    How, when the USS Cole was attacked, people were howling for Clinton's resignation/impeachment. And yet when planes crash into the Twin Towers and Bush later jacks with the 9/11 investigation to protect his Saudi buddies....
     
  4. Cohen

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    Nope, it's a word. It's just not a word that they taught you at Texas State.
     
  6. Rocketman95

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    ok..give us ONE.

    again..this is a flat out lie in a news piece. i can't believe you're giving them a pass on this one. unbelievable. yes, we're all skewed to "defend our side." but this is indefensible.
     
  8. Rocketman95

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    Nope, you're right, they didn't.
     
  9. Cohen

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    Of course, you are aware that 'gobshiite' is derived from 'common user of the term gobsmacked'. ;)
     
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  10. GreenVegan76

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    Good points. I'm not defending the BBC mistake (the reporter lied and he shouldn't work in journalism again). But to use this single instance of bad judgement as an indictment of the entire network is silly.

    They are the only major English media outlet that has consistently reported that there was no connection between Sept. 11/Iraq, and that WMD were not in the country -- both of which turned out to be true.
     
  11. bigtexxx

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    The jury is still out on the WMD. To say that there were *no* WMD will require time to sift through.

    And it's still funny that nobody has produced all of Foxnews' lies, yet. They're only LIARS because they have some (*not* all) conservative personalities. Oh, how dare them.... The liberals are *outraged*!!
     
  12. Maynard

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    hey bigtexx, I agologize that I havent posted all of the lies by FauxNews as my workload at my job has prevented me from putting together that post, but it is coming


    FYI

    http://www.billoreillysucks.com brings you to Bill's official site!

    guess he is hoping some people get confused and type that in instead of http://www.oreilly-sucks.com
     
  13. FranchiseBlade

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    BigTexx here are a few O'Reilly lies.

    Lie 1. A muslim caller told Bill that his show had anti-islam rhtoric, and pointed out that Bill compared Mein Kampf with the Koran.

    O'Reilly responded with the following quote "No I didn't that's a total lie." - Bill O'Reilly

    On July 7th 2002 the show was about freshman having to read the book 'Approaching the Qu'ran: The Early Revelations.' O'Reilly said the following on his show.

    "I don't know what this serves to look at our enemies relgion. See? I mean, I wouldn't give people a book during WWII on the emperor is God in Japan, would you?... I wouldn't read the book. And I'll tell you why: I wouldn't have read Mein Kampf either. I would have said, 'Hey Professor with all do respect shove it. I ain't reading it."

    Lie 2. Then we have O'Reilly claiming that he's an independent. His voter registration has been produced and he's a registered Republican. O'Reilly when confronted with this claimed that there wasn't a box to check for Independent. However on his registration form which was in Al Franken's latest book is a picture of that registration. I'm staring at a check box that reads: 'I do not wish to enroll in a party.'

    Lie 3. On February 5th, 2002 Bill O'Reilly told National Organization for Women president Kim Gandy that 58% of single mom homes were on welfare. The truth is that only 14% are on welfare. When Gandy tried to correct him, O'Reilly got mad. "You can't say no, Ms. Gandy That's the stat. You can't just dismiss it... It's 58%. That's what it is from the federal government.

    Lie 4. On May 8th, 2001, O'Reilly boasted that the United States gives "far and away more tax dollars to foreign countries than anyone... not even close." The truth is that Japan gives more. That's not even per captia. They just give more even in a straight up comparison. When O'Reilly's guest Phyllis Bennis from the institued for Policy Studies pointed out that the U.S. gives a smaller fraction of it's GNP than any other developed country O'Reilly bellowed, "That's not true..." Of course it is actually true.

    Those are just some of O'Reilly's lies. Anne Coulter's lies will come up shortly.
     
  14. FranchiseBlade

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    Lies continued:

    Anne Coulter lies:

    Lie 1. I think someone already mentioned her book claiming that the New York Times didn't run a story on Dale Earnhardt until two days after his death. In Al Franken's book there is a picture of a Front page article on the death the day after it happened.

    Lie 2. Coulter claims that Newsweek Washington Bureau chief, Evan Thomas "is the son of Norman Thomas, four-time Socialist candidate for president." The truth is that Evan Thomas is the son of Evan Thomas sr.

    Lie 3. Coulter claims that "New York Times columnist Frank Rich demanded that Ashcroft stop monkeying around with Muslim terrorists, and concentrate on anti-abortionist extremists."

    Rich didn't do any such thing. He wrote a piece that criticized Ashcroft for not meeting with representatives of Planned Parenthood, which has had years of experience with terrorism.

    The column doesn't include words like 'Muslim', 'Islamic', or 'monkeying'. It also makes no suggestions that Justice abandon its efforts against Al Qaeda.

    Lies 4, and 5. In Coulter's book she pulls quotes from the New York Times and tries to use it to discredit the paper.

    Anne Coulter writes:
    "The New York Times had allowed loose associations between Nazis and Christians to be made in its pages. tatements like these were not uncommon: 'Did the Nazi crimes draw on Christian tradition? ... 'The church is "co-responsible" for the holocaust..."

    The first quote is from a 2001 book review. The Times book reviewer was framing the question in reference to book which was about a 400 year old play which is performed annually in Bavaria and shows jews as evil and hateful.

    The second quote isn't even from a Writer on the Times staff. The writer was quoting from critic of the church. In the same article it also quotes a Jewish historian saying that "[Pope] Pius saved about 750,000 Jews."

    Anyway there are plenty more of her lies as well, but that's enough to prove the point.

    I'll just include one lie by Hannity, but there are plenty more. You can read Al Franken's book where all of these examples and more are neatly laid out for anyone to read.

    Hannity talks about the no-growth 90's. He clames that "Decades of liberal no-growth policies have seriously endangered our economic and national security."

    Now many people are aware that Clinton presided over the longest period of economic expansion in the history of the United States.

    These are just a few examples. Sorry for any typos. I'm typing this stuff almost directly from printed material, so it wont' be perfect. It does provide big texx with the proof and specific examples he wanted to see.
     
  15. GreenVegan76

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    FB, thanks for outlining all that. VERY interesting stuff there.
     
  16. bigtexxx

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    Those are all questionable. There's a difference between lying and misquoting stats.
     
  17. FranchiseBlade

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    One mistake might be ok, but these are just samples of the kinds of thing that Bil O'Reilly does all the time. Him saying he was an independent wasn't a misquoted stat. It was a lie. The fact is that there were guests who were trying to correct him on his stat. If it was truly a mistake all he had to do was listen to the guests who knew the mistakes and were attempting to correct it.

    But there is more:

    Him claiming that he won Peabody awards was a lie, and he claims that he just mispoke. Well the Polk awards that the show won, weren't won until after Bill O'Reilly already left. He wasn't even at the show when they won anything.

    Bill O'Reilly lied about his upbringing, when trying to make himself appear like a regular salt of the earth guy. He either grew up in Westbury(which was an affluent suburb) or Levittown which is a blue collar town. O'Reilly claimed he was from Levittown.

    O'Reilly's own mother told the Washington post that the family took regular vacations to folrida, Bill went to private school and private college, and they lived in Westbury.

    When confronted with the fact that he was from Westbury after claiming to be from Levittown O'Reilly claimed that he was from the Westbury section of Levittown. There is no Westbury section of Levittown. That's like saying you grew up in the Manhattan section of Brooklyn.
     
  18. egn

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    You obviously know nothing of Venezuela or the elected President.
     
  19. Joshfast

    Joshfast "We're all gonna die" - Billy Sole
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    You haven't proved that you have any knowledge either......

    Please explain with some details or facts about Venezuela or the elected President that ROXTXIA doesn't know or understand.

    bigtexx........ Why defend Bill O'Reilly so aggressively? Do you really think he is worth defending? Especially in the broad scope of conservatism, I believe he is a very weak link.
     
  20. egn

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    It is obvious that this person knows NOTHING of the Venezuelan president and or what he is doing to the land and the people of Venezuela. To criticize Bush as if he is meddling in other affairs for his own benefit is just ignorant. The sarcasam in the quote "their elected president" tells me that this person has just taken the outside facts and concocted their own ignorant views. The fact is that though the Venezuelan people did elect their president in the biggest landslide victory in the history of Venezuelan elections, they NOW wan't him out of office. He has sent many major oil companies out of Venezuela. These oil companies have established roots with the people of Venezuela. Many people that have worked for such companies for 20, 25, 30 years, have families to provide for are now left with nothing. Truth be told, he is trying to turn a once beautiful, free, prosperous country into Cuba!! The economic ramifications will be huge to the country of Venezuela and its people! The people have spoken!! They do not want this tyrant in office any longer!!
     

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