What Morey Thought of Lawson before the Season Started

05-07-2015, 10:18 PM

 

Mauri is a PR lover. He will say anything on social media and in public to fool the average fan who doesn't follow this team much.

Stats and spreadsheets are ok. How does he measure intangibles like chemistry, heart, leadership etc?

Edited to make it PG friendly.

 

I'm ok with Morey managing the cap and offering his statistical input, but this team is in dire need of more traditional basketball minds. Les has let the patients take over the asylum. Time to bring in a new warden who can take the mad scientist out from behind the big desk and put him back in his laboratory. He'll be more productive there.

 

65% thought Lawson was a top 10 PG in this CF poll

http://http://bbs.clutchfans.net/poll.php?do=showresults&pollid=10741

 

Good analogy and very true.

 

Don't stop him, he's on a roll.

 

This is unfair. Morey doesn't sugar coat much. He's been saying after the All-star break that home court advantage isn't gonna happen and that the only thing the team can do is hope to pull an upset. He knows the team isn't that great and is already thinking about next season.

Chemistry? Morey brought back players he probably wouldn't have give contracts to in the past just to save chemistry that led the team to the WCF. This is pretty much the same team that got us there. He didn't tinker at all except adding Lawson.

Heart and Leadership? He does try in that department since he did sign and kept Terry on the team but what can Morey do about Harden being a little egotistical b****?

 

The reason I was in favor of adding Lawson, was because I thought Lawson would be good when Harden was on the bench. It doesn't make sense that he has played so poorly even when Harden isn't playing. Lin wasn't great with Harden, but it wasn't the train wreck that Harden and Lawson have been.

 

And most of us scoffed, myself included, at all the media guys that acknowledged the risk due to his motor/drive/mental state related to the DWIs, and risk due to fit with Harden.

We all thought hey this is a no brainer....swapping out the likes of Pablo Prigioni, Jet at the 1, Alexy Shved, or Nick Johnson and putting Ty Lawson in the PG rotation? How is that not a huge positive, most of us thought.

damn..damn..damn...

 

It winks at you.

 

How has this fool not been banned yet?

 

I mean it's obvious right? It doesn't take a Rocket scientist to tell you that Rockets will not have HCA esp after all star break. Before that for the longest time he said Rockets may get HCA and no team would want to face Rockets in the 1st round or something along those lines? Do you really believe that seeing the product that's out there this season?

Chemistry goes beyond just bringing back the same players. It's obvious that despite last season the Harden-Howard duo is toxic. He should also know that this is a volatile bunch and he himself has stated that. Many players from last season were playing for contracts and they're fat and happy. This toxic bunch needs a different type of coach to bring chemistry. What does Mauri do? Fire one puppet and hire his assistant.

Well Mauri and Rockets have put Harden on a pedestal ever since they signed him and he can do whatever he wants with no repercussions. Don't play any D, no problem Mauri will go battle for you to the media.

Here is the latest:

 

Still haven't given Lawson the reins to the offense. You can see the talent sometimes when he gets it going a little bit. Our best game of the season was still with him as the starting PG against OKC. We looked unstoppable. I will always blame the coaches for a large part of this "fit".

 

Daryl is that you?
Now get back to work

 

I do agree that Morey created the monster that is James Harden. That's on him but I don't know if Mchale did anything to counter it either? If Morey stopped McHale from from disciplining Harden then yeah that's on Morey but who knows.

All I know is the Rockets ****ed up the development of James Harden. Who is responsible? I don't know.

 

I liked Morey quite much during his heydays, but at best i regarded him just outside top 5 per se. He's good at value management but with only a big fan level understanding of the sport, like a Mark Cuban. I would only say positive things at the time cos I fully believe in the good chance that he'll get better on the job and eventually show results.

In his own words, he never fails to explain how his analytics are only part of the process, while the hands-on type basketball insights are more essential.

Based on results, there are GMs who over time had proven to be the best in the game, no arguments. Just from the top two teams today: decision makers of the Spurs and warriors. Morey had never been close to this caliber of a decision maker due to his lack of basketball insights. I think u can clearly see this by looking up Jerry West.

I love this article, it documents a lot about West's insights and attitude, he is obviously knowledgeable and insightful to a degree few has ever achieved on the subject of basketball. Morey rarely thinks and display in public in terms of basketball insights, like how Jerry can. For ex, West famously threatened to leave the organization if they're to trade klay for love. The guys at Warriors all probably shared a similar idea, but west is emphatic about it just to kill any noise about entertaining this trade offer. By contrast, Morey flips his assets relatively aimlessly as far as basketball, imo it shows he hasn't a true idea a kind of basketball system he envisions. But he is a good trader, it's still a very good trait to have. However, he was blinded by false positives of last year's "result" and mistakenly decide that "it is time to go all in for sake of chemistry building". Person like West would always judge based on basketball merits, and merits alone. When he decided klay is overwhelmingly better than love for the dubs, that was at a time when ppl regard them as a lower seed flashy playoff newcomers. Morey would have jumped all over the big shiny loving name (and stats)...

http://www.si.com/nba/2015/06/11/jerry-west-nba-finals-golden-state-warriors

This season, Morey had disappointed me with his forced PR statements, whatever is at play here, he's not honest to the fans enough. He's just a human, he can admit his own mistakes.. At least to himself. It's ok, fans won't take that as a sign if incompetence. However, the way he keeps propping up his mistakes with Twitter statements... Shows us more of his character imperfection which can be reasons to prevent a better job performance rather than lack of technical abilities.

 

To be fair. That was preseason. Everybody and his granny were excited about Lawson before the season started.

 

I swear, everyone in this forum is a psychic. All of a sudden the "I told you so's" start coming out of the woodwork.

We go Ty on the cheap and got him to waive his option. On paper before the season started this was a huge move for us if he showed up as the same Ty that was in Denver. We took a gamble and it didn't work. I would have rather tried then not have.

Our problems go beyond just Ty.

 

imo, even Morey could use his own "I told u so". He knew it was a gamble, I commend him for his eye for values and getting things cheap. However, when half the times his cheap buy fails, it only proves why the market don't value it. (Royce white, Lawson, Dorsey etc)

On the flip side, he would put out noises to shoot for the stars, get the stars first, no matter if they fit or not. Let it play out and gamble. Do you see the Spurs ever "gambling" with FA? No they choose who fit their philosophy.
In another word, he rarely make moves based on basketball reason, and the result on the court reflects this flaw of his all the time.

He also overreacted to pay and keep his flawed team in order to validate his approach. Going all in from last year's roster was not a basketball move, it was a sudden change to his methods, prompted by a perceived result.

I.e. Most ppl could tell rockets got lucky for the 2nd seat and were at least below Spurs and clippers in rankings. He got too eager to validate himself with the truly fluky WCF result. (2nd seat was luck, Spurs dropped against peli. Rockets were winning bad games early like 66-60 against the Sixers. Clip didn't take rockets seriously after battling Spurs etc. dubs got the younger but more immature opponent.)

Performance of team reflects morey's flawed methods. Fair enough?

 

He bought cheap not because he valued cheap players, but because they were temporary players. He had a bigger picture in mind, but still needed to try and win games.

Spurs have had their core for a long time. They don't gamble because they don't need to. We need to.

How did he overreact? He didn't over pay anyone to stay. Even if it was a fluke season, it was a hell of a season. You have to go forward and challenge them do it again, but leave room to change it up, if necessary. There's room for that this summer, so no, it wasn't a change to his methods. He's still maintaining some flexibility.

It's mind boggling that fans can't see Morey has a bigger plan. He knows this team isn't good enough, but he still needs to get behind the team and keep them competitive. the only time he was really ready to go all in was when he thought Bosh was coming here. Bev/Harden/Parsons/Bosh/Dwight that's a team you truly go all in for.