Gee you can Tell there is a lot of Jew's on this forum. I think the only way to stop this conflict is to kill religion, bunch of fruit-loops with long black curly hair, talking to walls.
I see one of you said the arabs are hypocrits. I think the Jews and Sharon,and Netanyaho)sp?) are the hypocrits. If I had a dime every time one of them got on tv and said Arafat is a terrorist,Id be a millionaire. If he is such a bad terrorist(and he is) and since he literally is NOT HIDING from anyone. Its literally comical that Israel complains about the terrorists and how the usa must stop terrorism also,they can even go knock on Arafats door and he answers. So I ask all of you,why the hell hasnt Israel killed him then turn around and get on tv saying he supports terrorism? Utter Morons. I agree that he should be killed,yet,Israel baffles me that they complain yet wont kill him. I see Israel tanks blow up hamas houses and stuff,yet let Arafat live. So,I thought deeply about this for years,and there must be a hiden agenda about this whole choas that is why they dont kill him yet wont tell the truth to americans. Im starting to think the whole thing is staged and Arafat and Sharon are probably buddies. I mean, lets get real. Sharon can snap his fingers and end this Hamas leaders,arafats support,and not get America involved. Except,the exact opposite is happening. Either Sharon is just plain dumb,or is trying to get the whole world in a war over this. And yes,this little situation could lead to ww3 simply because no Israel supporter will have the balls to blow away Arafat. And on North Korea,I dont buy the excuse "they have a bomb". It goes deeper. WE could have killed that guy YEARS ago and chose not to. Our satelites can watch the nuke factories being built and we did NOTHING while they were being built. I'll tell you why we dont bomb North Korea, one word: China Maybe thats why we dont kill Arafat(and we could if we really wanted to) because maybe our oil from Suadi Arabia would be embargoed. To bad most people I know dont even know/care/realize the massive economic crash should the entire middle east stop shipping oil. Hummm,maybe thats why we are over there ,not because of "weapons of mass destruction" which so mysteriously are gone even though Colon Powel said we were watching with satelites(he said before invasion) ,but to steal oil. Maybe theres a bigger war going on thats behind closed doors not told to the public for fear of people panicking and crashing the market.
Here's a good example of one courageous Israelie standing up for peace. ******* Gush Shalom activist Uri Avnery to act as human shield for Arafat Press Release, Gush Shalom, 14 September 2003 Arafat's destroyed compound in Ramallah following Israel's April 2002 "Operation Defensive Shield". The Muqata' as the compound is known, is the Ramallah district headquarters of several Palestinian Authority offices and security forces. (Ronald de Hommel) "I am willing to put myself at risk and serve as a human shield, in order to foil Prime Minster Sharon's intention to murder the leader of the Palestinian People. So are many of my my fellows in the Israeli peace movement" declared the veteran peace activist Uri Avnery of Gush Shalom (the Israeli Peace Bloc) upon his arrival at the Presidential Compound in Ramallah. "Sharon does not intend to 'deport' Yasser Arafat. That word is a mere euphemism for murdering Arafat in cold blood. The murder of Arafat, by soldiers under the authority of the government of Israel, would be a terrible disaster for our country. It may precipitate an outbreak of hatred and bloodshed dwarfing everything we have seen in the past three years. Such a murder would also put an end to any chance of peace and reconciliation between the two peoples for many years, possibly for generations. "To a person like me, who deeply cares about Israel's future, there is nothing more important to do at this moment than do everything -- and I do mean everything -- in my power to prevent such a calamity. PM Sharon, Defence Minster Mofaz and their generals should know that if they send their soldiers in here, there will be Israeli peace activists here to bar their way" said Avnery, who mentioned that already last year, a group of Gush Shalom activists had spent the night at this compound, during a previous round of threats by Sharon against Arafat. Avnery sharply condemned the so-called "experts" who on the Israeli media assert that "Arafat removal will pave the way for the emergence of moderate forces". "Either these gentlemen are bare-faced liars, or they have not the slightest knowledge on the subject they comment about, no realisation of the obvious fact that the murder of Arafat would wipe out for a considerable time any sign of moderation in the Palestinian society." Uri Avnery at a 1997 protest against the confiscation of the land of Jebel Abu Ghnaim for the illegal Israeli settlement Har Homa. (Nigel Parry) Avnery arrived at the Presidential Compound this afternoon, among a group of some thirty peace activists which also included Knesset Members Issam Mahoul and Ahamad Tibi, senior Meretz activist Latif Dori and the historian Teddy Katz. Together with them arrived a large group of Palestinian public figures, partners of the Israelis in the Joint Israeli-Palestinian Action Group for Peace. When the activist arrived, the compound was full of thousands of Palestinian demonstrators, carrying photos of Arafat and flags of the various factions and organizations in Palestinian society, now united in strong opposition to Sharon's threat against Arafat. The presidential bodyguards made room for the peace delegation among the crowd. In the corridor inside, the Israelis met with Arafat, who welcomed them warmly and invited Avnery and the two MKs to appear with his at the window. Their appearance was greeted by prolonged applause and cheers. Avnery handed to Arafat the Gush Shalom symbol, consisting of the linked flags of Israel and Palestine - which the Palestinian president immediately pinned on to his lapel. Arafat invited the peace activists to dinner, which was joined also by the new Palestinian Prime Minister Abu Ala. During the dinner, Arafat spoke of the Oslo agreements, signed ten years ago to the day, and said "I was then, and I remain now, committed to the hope of a secure future, a future when the children of both our peoples could grow up without fear". Abu Ala called for an immediate cease-fire, putting a complete end to both suicide bombings by Palestinians and "liquidations" by the Israeli armed forces. Avnery advised the Palestinian PM to include in the presentation of his new cabinet, once it is formed, a direct appeal to the people of Israel. "Very many in Israel already understand the simple truth: assassinations and liquidations directly precipitate suicide bombings; whoever sends a helicopter gunship to assassinate a Palestinian leader is thereby also causing the death of the Israeli civilians in the subsequent suicide bombing. Sharon and many of his ministers and generals do not want a cease-fire, but rather a total war. But among the citizens of Israel, who have had enough and more than enough of living in fear, such a direct appeal for a cease-fire could find an echo". url Averney's bio:Born: September 10, 1923, Beckum, Germany. Immigration to palestine: November 1933. Underground: Member of the Irgun, 1938-1942. Army service: Member of Samson's Foxes, commando unit, 1948 twice wounded in action. Prizes: Erich-Maria-Remarque peace prize (Germany) for the year 1995, awarded 21/6/95. Honorary citizenship of Kfar Kassem, Israel, awarded 31.11.96, on the occasion of the 40th anniversary of the war crime, for his principal role in exposing it. Aachen peace prize for "Gush Shalom with Uri Avnery", awarded 1/9/97. Kreisky prize for human rights, Vienna, autumn 1997. link For a more interesting an detailed bio of Aveny with some interesting history of the peace movement in Israel , see: link
I don't believe that there are. But one can identify a total moron here, and we all can welcome him from lurk mode.
wallrus, please sit back, read, try to understand, and let your ignorance melt away. It's ridiculous to think that by reading the posts in this thread you can tell who is and who isn't Jewish. Those kinds of generalizations are part of the problem.
