Cheech's partner Chong gets 9 months for selling bongs

Clinton was the first president to pay attention to terrorism, he increased the counterterrorism budgets dramatically after the WTC bombing in 93...he had a PLAN for attacking OBL that he gave to Bush in 2000, bush put in, like Al Franken says "Operation IGNORE" and decided a missle-defense system was more important..

not to mention the fact that Reagen funded the Taliban and Saddam, Bush Sr. Funded Taliban and then once the Soviets left, put in his own ignore operation and abandened the opposition groups in Afghanistan

Clinton is the LAST person we can blame for 9/11

After the bombing of the USS Cole, he put together the exact plan that Bush carried out in Afghanistan and else where, just Bush SAT on it til after 9/11 happened...

im sick of the Blame Clinton first BS of the right

 

I know man, I was just turning aroud this argument that "Bush and Ashcroft should be concentrating on terrorism rather than on drugs." You could apply the same dumb argument to Clinton and it makes no sense either way.

On the USS Cole though, it's too bad most of his advisers opposed attacking Afghanistan for various reasons: 1) the world would be against us 2) not enough evidence 3) not justifieid and so on.

 

let's not forget that Bush II funded the Taliban with 40 million dollars in APRIL of 2001, less than 5 months before 9/11.

why? to stop those bad, bad poppy growers.






Bush has bad priorities, and he has always had bad priorities. the war in Afghanistan was the right thing at the right time, but he flaked out on getting the job done and started a war in Iraq that didn't need to be fought and shouldn't have been. Meanwhile, Osama continues making tapes.

 

Dude, you deserve some kind of award. You've touched on topics covered in at least 293 previous flame-ridden threads... and all in one short paragraph!

 

Whether you think he "flaked out on getting the job done" depends on whether you think the war on terror is confined mainly to Afghanistan and smaller missions or whether you think it requires an ambitious reform of the whole Middle East.

 

Very nice job of tying them together. T_J might say that everyone else is IRRELEVANT if he agreed.

 

sorry for the out roar by me there, i was ticked off for other reasons outside of this bbs

but I agree with FF, Bush and his cronies have some weird strange priorties...they GUT the Clean Air and Water Acts, give special treatments to their lobby groups and arrest damn glass bong sellers...strange priorities..

 

and there on my TV is Bush AGAIN, standing in front of uniformed soldiers, telling them "WE ARE STRIKING AT TERROR - NOT ON THE FRINGE, BUT AT IT'S HEART!"

yeah, right

because if there is one thing we can all agree, Saddam was behind worldwide terrorism. Saddam was too selfish to care what happened in Mecca, or Medina, or anywhere else.

I have seen absolutely no evidence that Saddam had anything to do with any terrorist attack in the past 10 years, and the opposition of Usama, Muslim fundamentalists and the Shia should have underscored that.


I was 100% in favor of the war in Afghanistan, and remain so. Dropping that as the priority and suddenly shifting gears to move towards Iraq 15 months ago was a huge mistake. We should have gotten Osama, put his head on a stick, and let the masses see him dead.

Then we wait for the jihaders to show up in Afghanistan, and kill as many as we can as quickly as we can.

 

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Idiocy like this is why I vote libertarian. You arrest and sentence a 65-year old man for making bongs! Doesn't the FBI have anything better to do than go after him? ? Guess not. Is he such a threat to the youth of America? We've got to end this prohibition at some point, but I don't see it happening because of this cottage industry the drug war has become. The government uses the pretense of the "war on drugs" to seize private property and restrict liberty. And it's all "for the children," the favorite line of politicians seeking to destroy your freedom for the sake of votes.

 

Especially when we could actually do something "for the children" by taking drugs out of the hands of children through strong regulation.

 

I know when I was a teenager, it was far easier to score a dime or a quarter than to get a sixer. Legalize it for sale and make it for adults only (just like with alcohol) and less kids will be able to do drugs. Perverse, isn't it? I don't think that Ashcroft and his drug war buddies would go for that.

 

Which is precisely why we need to educate ourselves and the people around us to the truth that they are missing. Prohibition is a lie that has been told to the American people for almost 90 years (since the Harrison Narcotics Act of 1914) and it is far past time to do what is necessary to keep this great nation great.