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2016 Iowa caucus

Discussion in 'BBS Hangout: Debate & Discussion' started by justtxyank, Feb 1, 2016.

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  1. Mathloom

    Mathloom Shameless Optimist

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    Ugh, she got it. She got it.
     
  2. SeabrookMiglla

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    shes declaring victory with 10% of the votes left and sanaders and clinton are seperated by less than .10% of the vote?!

    wtf is hillary thinking
     
  3. justtxyank

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    The counties that are left don't really have the numbers unless he cuts steeply into where she has big leads
     
  4. Bobbythegreat

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    Honestly it doesn't matter who technically "wins" because they'll still have essentially the same number of delegates right?
     
  5. justtxyank

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    Rubio still has a mathematical chance to pass trump
     
  6. justtxyank

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    Bernie needs the win for perception
     
  7. Bobbythegreat

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    I don't think so honestly, he wasn't even supposed to be able to compete in Iowa and it was basically a tie. He'll win New Hampshire easily and be leading in delegates going into the next primary. That's pretty good considering where he is coming from.
     
  8. Mathloom

    Mathloom Shameless Optimist

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    Big time. He's going to win NH and there would be a snowball effect going into SC.
     
  9. MojoMan

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    It is such a small number of delegates, 30 in total, that even if Cruz has substantially more than Trump it is not even close to decisive for anyone.
     
  10. ryan_98

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    according to the delegate vote predictions bernie needed something like a 2-1 victory to keep pace. he's predicted to win NH but even with a landslide he'll still be off course to get the nomination barring any unpredictable events regarding hilary.
     
  11. Bobbythegreat

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    I was talking about the Bernie/Hillary race

    Sure but with Sanders holding a lead while Hillary is likely to be facing more and more pressure due to the FBI investigation and possible indictment, it could be all he needs.
     
  12. justtxyank

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    I'd explain to you why he needs the win but I am tired of seeing your posts about the fbi investigation. Good grief you have to tie that into every response
     
  13. ipaman

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    didn't the last few presidents all lose iowa?

    iowa is relevant because it's first but overall it's not that important.
     
  14. The Cat

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    Wasn't even supposed to compete? :confused: He outright won at least four different polls in the final two weeks. You can't take expectations from many months ago, compare them to now and then have a baseline. Doesn't work that way.
     
  15. justtxyank

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    Obama lost it every time except the times he won it
     
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    Obama won Iowa
     
  17. Mr.Scarface

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    Um.......lol. Which was proven false. His loans are not false. He shady finances are on the books.
     
  18. Bobbythegreat

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    It's sort of a big deal even if some don't want to admit it. If ANYONE else had an FBI investigation going on then I'm sure you'd think differently. Have that much evidence of ANY other candidate committing felonies and I'm sure you'd think that it could be a factor in the race.

    By all means though, keep trying to ignore it and hope it'll go away

    [​IMG]
     
  19. Amiga

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    There are some interesting data from the exit polls. The one that jump out for me are:

    - Among 'very conservative', Cruz wins big (43 to 21 for Trump)
    - Among 'somewhat conservative', Trump wins (25 to 19 for Cruz)
    - Among 'moderate' (which makes up only 14%), Trump wins big (35 to 9 for Cruz)

    - Among those that have attended a caucus before, Cruz wins big (31 to 19 for Trump)
    - Among those that have NOT attended a caucus before, Trump wins big (36 to 19 for Cruz).
    - Among those that want an outsider, Trump wins big (36 to 19 for Cruz).

    Tells me that Iowa's conservatives are strong social conservatives (not surprising considering Santorum edged by Romney in '12 and Huckabee destroyed McCain by 21 pts in '08).

    Trump isn't winning any social conservatives (not surprising as he's barely one himself). He needs new first time voters or less social conservatives to win.

    Rubio might be in the sweet spot. He isn't fall behind Cruz and did well among educated, somewhat conservatives and moderate.

    Also tells me that in the general election, Rubio would likely do relatively better than Trump while Trump would likely do relatively much better than Cruz. Moderate do not like Cruz.
     
  20. justtxyank

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    Lol Ted Cruz just used "yes we can"
     

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