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Random Houston Rockets Trade Ideas - 2015-16

Discussion in 'Houston Rockets: Game Action & Roster Moves' started by Clutch, Jul 12, 2015.

  1. Von Rafer

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  2. Since75

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    Aldrich is there for salary more than ability. Capela is for value to the Clips
     
  3. basketballholic

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    At this point in their respective careers Aldrich is a much better defensive center than Capela is. Smoke that because it's real.
     
  4. JayZ750

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    If you're already the worst (or one of the worst) defensive teams in the league, I don't get the argument to trading away Dwight?

    We'll get worse defensively? Maybe... on paper, "probably", but you never know since its weird how we're the worst with him anyway. But you have to try something, and maybe that something is getting better elsewhere.

    As some have pointed out, for example, rebounding is a big issue with this team. Clearly, eliminating Dwight doesn't help that. But a big point with this team is that Dwight and Capela play the same position. The Rockets have been decent when they both start with Clint at PF... BUT it wasn't sustainable nor should it have been. Clint is a C.

    So a valid question becomes, given the holes in the roster, choose between Dwight (better, but older, costs more, likely a FA who will cost A LOT more) and Clint (younger, but nowhere near the total presence Dwight is, but much cheaper)?

    In that scenario, you could at least envision a scenario where you trade Dwight for a Kevin Love type, and actually improve slightly defensively because you're overall rebounding gets better, while also improving offensively.

    It's just an option ... not a clear answer ... but what is?
     
  5. Deuce

    Deuce Context & Nuance

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    Defensive communication is one aspect that tends to get lost. It is critical. Howard provides it and the only other post player that supplies it is DMo and he is hurt all the time. :-/

    This has killed the Rockets.
     
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    Great point. Hopefully Smoove gives us this when Dwight sits. Because Smoove is the only player on this roster good enough defensively as the anchor to lead.


    And this is one reason why you know there's something screwy going on. Because Smoove should be in the middle every second that Dwight is out. There's simply no explanation for this big man rotation not happening other than we're trying to get guys exposure in order to move them. There is no other rational reason not to have Smoove out there every second that Dwight is on the bench. N-O-N-E.
     
  7. Deuce

    Deuce Context & Nuance

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    LOL, I completely forgot about Smith when composing my post. Yeah, add him to Dwight and Dmo. But Tjones, Capela and Harrell are just too young and/or don't get it.

    Pre-injury, adding a Noah to this team would have really helped. Nene would help.
     
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    I think this has to start with coaching. Communication can be taught, whereas instinct can't be. I don't think our coaches are very effective in mandating discipline on defense. Teams are blowing by one of our perimeter guys and getting right to the bucket, and then it's on Howard or Capela. There isn't much of a "second layer" to our defense between the perimeter and the rim because guys are so bad at switching and helping. Obviously Harden is a problem but look across the board, pretty much every has been bad. Even Ariza has been mediocre.
     
  9. malakas

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    Not during the season. And its not easy. Takes a lot of time.
     
  10. Pen15clubber

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    I'm real, you wanna smoke me?
     
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  11. Von Rafer

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    Still not enough for me to trade a young guy with upside for a big white oaf. And as others have said, coaching (and strength improvement) can fix this.
     
  12. Beardaholic13

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    You do make a couple of good points actually, and if i believed that capela was ready to step into that role id be inclined to actually agree with u, but he is clearly not ready(too skinny, needs to add more strength)....centers would abuse him down low.

    However as of now with how this season is gone, unless dwight has given morey an indication that he wants to stay and might take a little less to bring in a max free agent i dont see y we wouldnt be fielding offers and seeing what we could get but the problem is (other then the uncertainty of him resigning) is that there just arent alot of teams that have assets that would help us and at the same time need dwight because he could potentially put them over the top....imo there r only 2boston and cleveland..so slim pickings
     
  13. DrNuegebauer

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    Agreed re: Griffin, but not on Love.

    Hence I said only if the Clippers want to ditch Griffin would that thing work - they have the prime piece, and if, for some inexplicable reason, they wanted to get rid of him, then KLove would be a nice return (you never get equal value when trading the best player). KLove might actually work out nicely next to DAJ.
    I think Howard is more valuable than Love (I wouldn't accept Love straight up for Howard). Guys who can lockdown the paint are in demand, they are the difference between being a defensive team or not. Of course, in our case, having no system renders him ineffective...
    As to Howard and a fit with Mozgov/ TT - obviously they could choose to either move Mozgov, or to have him play 10-15 per game behind Dwight (those 2 couldn't co-exist). I don't see an issue with Dwight and TT co-existing - 2 guys with no range doesn't necessarily mean you have a stagnant offence (We are able to score plenty with Dwight and Capela logging minutes together). And I would happily give either of TJo or DMo to the other 2 teams in the trade!

    Anyway, pipe dream, I can't think of a single reason why the Clippers would do it...
     
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    If they do it it won't be this trade deadline, it would be after the playoffs. And by then Dwight IF he resigns as a Rocket his value will be much much worse than Love/Griffin because of the much bigger contract he is about to get.
     
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    Maybe we are just underestimating how stupid JB is?
     
  16. malakas

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    So now Spears reports that it's not just Boston calling for exploration talks, it's the Hawks themselves willing to trade Horford.
    And apparently he wants to be in a bigger city than Atlanta where they speak spanish?
    Is Houston bigger than Atlanta?
    Perhaps he will join the Lakers. I dont' think that Boston is bigger than Atlanta or they speak spanish there but I dont' even really know.
     
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    They don't speak hardly any Spanish in Boston so that might rule them out? What an odd request from Horford
     
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    Sounds like miami.
    Horford and filler for whiteside and deng
     
  19. malakas

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    Well its a given he will get the max. If hes traded too he will get the fifth year. So after that its personal criteria.
    The important is that may take out Boston and that is good. One less target for ainge and the clock is ticking. The consolidation trade has to happen soon. At least one.

    Its good because it may lead to a good offer fo Dwight.
     
  20. larsv8

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    All in package?

    Lawson, Motiejunas, Capella, McDaniels

    for

    Teague, Horford


    Beverley / Teague / Jet
    Harden / Thornton
    Ariza / Brewer
    Horford / Jones / Harrell
    Howard /
     

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