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When Cruz Makes His Move, Watch Out

Discussion in 'BBS Hangout: Debate & Discussion' started by MojoMan, Nov 24, 2015.

  1. larsv8

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    He got it wrong, jorge is bigpuffery's twin brother.
     
  3. DonnyMost

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    I might be able to buy that if 1) he didn't support enormous tax breaks for Oil and Gas and 2) didn't have hundreds of thousands of dollars invested in said industry.

    Rand's stand is the more principled of the two, while Cruz's stance is merely a marriage of financial expedience (both personal and political, Yay Super PACs!) and intellectual dishonesty.
     
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    The establishment hates him.
     
  5. Commodore

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    What Cruz does that no other senator does is publicly criticize fellow senators in his own party, by name. He reveals what is said in closed door meetings and senate lunches.

    For this brutal honesty and transparency, he is labeled a jerk that no one likes. The latter is to be expected. People don't like being publicly criticized.

    But when you are one of 100 votes, the only way to affect change is to create constituent pressure on other senators. When they say Cruz "shut down the government" even though he is only one vote, this is what they mean.
     
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    He cannot legally run for president. He was not a natural born citizen. The cruel irony is that the most well accomplished Harvard grad ever cannot run for president.
     
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    It's the way that he does it that rubs everyone the wrong way. While I almost never agree with anything that Mitch McConnell says or does, going onto the floor of the senate and calling him a liar was just a really awful thing to do. Ted obviously doesn't care about getting things done in Washington because he's proud of all the bridges he's burned. Ted Cruz even said a few days ago that what we need is less deal making in Washington, for Christ's sake...
     
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    Huh??
     
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    I'm pretty sure the one-term senator has a ways to go to be the most well-accomplished Harvard grad ever: http://www.businessinsider.com/30-most-famous-harvard-students-of-all-time-2010-4?op=1. Accomplishing something would be a good start for him.
     
  10. Commodore

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    He said McConnell lied, which he did.

    No one denied the specifics of anything Cruz said.
     
  11. Baba Booey

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    No kidding. It was his total lack of tact that pissed everyone off. That is a terrible trait in a leader.
     
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    do you realize when you make comments like this that there is a distinct possibility that you can not look at politics clearly and logically?

    i mean come on "most accomplished ever" wow.
     
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    https://www.google.com/?gws_rd=ssl#q=famous+harvard+graduates

    why isn't teddy coming up? :(
     
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    Wanna know where the best place to hide something is?

    The second page of Google results
     
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    StupidMoniker I lost a bet

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    Even just limiting it to American politics, this is demonstrably untrue. There have been 8 US Presidents that were Harvard graduates.
     
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    That's one way of viewing it. The other is he is all about his own self interest that can't be worked with or trusted ever.
     
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    <blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p>CNN National Poll Cruz 50%Clinton 47%</p>&mdash; Teddy Davis (@TeddyDavisCNN) <a href="https://twitter.com/TeddyDavisCNN/status/691939509508952064" data-datetime="2016-01-26T11:03:29+00:00">January 26, 2016</a></blockquote>
    <script src="//platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>
     
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    <blockquote class="twitter-tweet" lang="en"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">CNN National Poll

    Sanders 50%
    Cruz 47%</p>&mdash; Teddy Davis (@TeddyDavisCNN) <a href="https://twitter.com/TeddyDavisCNN/status/691940311778598912">January 26, 2016</a></blockquote>
    <script async src="//platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>
     
  20. NewRoxFan

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    ^Margin of error 3.5%

    http://www.cnn.com/2016/01/26/politics/donald-trump-ted-cruz-polling/
     

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