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[Movie] Star Wars Episode VII

Discussion in 'BBS Hangout' started by K mf G, Nov 8, 2013.

  1. J Sizzle

    J Sizzle Member

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    I agree, though a case could be made that Kylo Ren being shot by Chewie while on the bridge messed him up pretty bad, which made him at least somewhat compromised while fighting Finn and Rey in the forest right after.
     
  2. JayGoogle

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    You are right, everything has the force. Barring some examples of beings outside of it entirely who are part of the EU and therefore not really relevant any more

    But a Jedi is one that is part of the Jedi order and a Sith is part of the Sith.

    Sith and Jedi are better trained at it since they get actual training.
     
  3. RocketsPimp

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    No sir. They become Jedi through confronting the dark side. For example, the following convo took place with Yoda on Luke's second trip to Degobah:

    Yoda: "No more training do you require. Already know you that which you need."
    Luke Skywalker: "Then I am a Jedi."
    Yoda: "Not yet. One thing remains: Vader. You must...confront...Vader. Then, only then, a Jedi, will you be."
     
  4. heypartner

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    Just moments before he "fought" Finn, Ren tossed Rey 50 feet up into a tree. The injury did not inhibit his ability to use the Force.

    Plus, in a previous encounter with Rey, he froze her in place before carrying her away to the ship.

    Maybe he was toying with Finn, but it certainly wasn't Finn's "storm trooper training" or "the injury" that prevented Ren from tossing Finn away like a rag doll like he *just* did to Rey.
     
  5. J Sizzle

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    Well yeah, I'm talking strictly the light saber fights, not his ability to use the force.
     
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    There is apparently a new planet... or is it? They never should have made this movie.
     
  7. BiGGieStuFF

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    The argument against Finn is that he's...... From sanitation ha-ha.
     
  8. thejav

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    Seemed like they ran out of original ideas..cant wait for Kylo Ren to turn out to be Reys father in the next one..
     
  9. TheresTheDagger

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    Still can't get over how wimpy and "non intimidating" Kylo Ren was. I mean compared to Vader, he's a marshmallow.
     
  10. Nero

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    Yes! It would have been MUCH more original to have a character EXACTLY like Darth vader!
     
  11. ima_drummer2k

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    That was by design....
     
  12. MadMax

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    Why are people having such a hard time understanding that? He's not Vader...not yet. He literally has lines in the movie where he's acknowledging that. The characters around him get it.

    But damn, the dude killed his own father. Vader didn't do that. The kid thought about it..contemplated it...and still killed his own father. That's pretty effing dark.
     
  13. Falcons Talon

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    Vader didn't have a father though.
     
  14. MadMax

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    He did have a son :) Even Vader was conflicted.
     
  15. Nero

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    Stupid idiot Lucas and his stupid effing midichlorians!
     
  16. Falcons Talon

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    But he pulled the trigger on both his masters...He offed Obi Wan AND the Emperor.
     
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  18. MadMax

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    LOL. No one is saying he's not one of the greatest movie villains of all time. But until the end of Empire he was seemingly just a robot...we didn't get the story of his character developing from good to evil at all...and then we got a poorly done version of that in the prequels.

    Personally, I kinda like seeing a character develop and struggle this way. Driver exceeded what I expected from him in acting that out. I find those sorts of villains to be far more interesting in stories than the ones who come across as static and unchangeable.
     
  19. Falcons Talon

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    Oh, I'm not disagreeing with you on any points. Vader really had very limited screen time in ANH, but every time he was on, he was just the baddest mofo out there. Very static as a character

    Driver did a great job portraying the part he was playing. I'm looking forward to seeing his character grow.

    and just for the record, what if the Han visited Kamino before TFA?

    http://starwars.wikia.com/wiki/Reconnaissance_mission_to_Kamino
     
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  20. J Sizzle

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    Kylo Ren is a great character and you know it simply because of how much discussion he generates. So many different opinions on him, which is obviously what they were going for. They want the audience to struggle with whether he's truly evil or not, because that's what Kylo Ren is experiencing as well. He doesn't even know whether he is or not...

    Until he kills his dad
     

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