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Governor takes dig at accent

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  1. Dark Rhino

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    Who can say as to what exact degree of accuracy is contained in the following report; but, in saying this, though realizing that politics can and often do push the proverbial envelope, there is something rather distasteful in this entire affair. Politicos must understand the influence and sway they have on the people, as readily demonstrated by the crowd member who screamed, "He's a foreigner!"

    http://www.sacbee.com/content/politics/recall/story/7371309p-8315005c.html


    Governor takes dig at accent
    Remark about Schwarzenegger is made to a rally participant.
    By Dan Smith and Alexa H. Bluth -- Bee Staff Writers
    Published 2:15 a.m. PDT Sunday, September 7, 2003

    SOUTH EL MONTE -- Campaigning at a union picnic, Gov. Gray Davis on Saturday turned his sights on Republican gubernatorial candidate Arnold Schwarzenegger, saying in a conversation with one potential voter that "you shouldn't be governor unless you can pronounce the name of the state."
    In his public remarks to a boisterous crowd of about 300 at the fifth annual picnic of the Los Angeles Ironworkers Local 433, Davis suggested Schwarzenegger -- whom he referred to only as "the actor" -- would repeal Davis-backed union gains such as daily overtime pay and family-leave benefits.

    "I've signed 300 bills to help working people," Davis said. "These are measures that strengthen your lives. Now my opponent, this actor, says 'I'm not going to ask for support from working people because they are a special interest.' He's got part of it right. You are special, and you have an important and special role to play in our future, and I am proud to stand with you."
    Whipped into an anti-Schwarzenegger frenzy at the picnic, one crowd member screamed, "He's a foreigner!" as Davis criticized Schwarzenegger, who hopes to succeed him as governor in the Oct. 7 recall election.

    The man later approached Davis and apologized several times for making the remark. Davis told him not to worry, and added with a smile, "You shouldn't be governor unless you can pronounce the name of the state," in an apparent reference to Schwarzenegger's Austrian accent.

    The theme was picked up later in Alhambra at an Asian American rally against the recall. An appointee to the Workforce Investment Board, Sukhee Kang, suggested that Schwarzenegger's accent hindered his governing abilities.

    "He can't even speak English well. How can he govern the state of California?" said Kang, who emigrated from South Korea in 1977, as he warmed up the crowd before Davis arrived.

    Facing the same crowd later, Davis ticked off a list of Asian Americans he's named to top government positions and said he has appointed more Asian Americans -- 280 -- than any California governor.

    He again slammed Schwarz-enegger.

    "He just fights in movies," Davis said. "I served in a real war to defend this country and I've worked hard to advance the interests of Asian Pacific Californians."

    He said former Gov. Pete Wilson and other Wilson-era members of Schwarzenegger's campaign "had their chance. They should just move aside and let the rest of us finish the job you elected us to serve."

    Schwarzenegger spokesman Sean Walsh said the Democratic governor insulted "millions of Californians" with his comment on Schwarzenegger's accent.

    "Gray Davis has made an anti-immigrant slur," he said. "He owes an apology to Arnold Schwarzenegger and all immigrants in this state and country. ... This appears to be a pattern by the Democrats to play wedge-issue politics regarding immigrants."

    Davis spokesman Pete Ragone later said he attended the picnic with the governor and did not hear the comment. "Furthermore, the real question is, is Arnold sorry for the way he's talked about women over the past 20 years? Is Arnold sorry for his support of Prop. 187?"

    Earlier in the day, the first presidential candidate to campaign against the recall in California, Democrat Howard Dean, stood with Davis and denounced the recall as part of a Republican-driven "state-by-state, piece-by-piece, dismantling (of) elections that the people of this country have decided already."

    "What's going on in California, the nation's biggest state, is nothing less than an attempt by the right wing to undo what this country's all about," said Dean during a joint press conference with Davis. "They do not care what Americans think, and they do not accept the legitimacy of our elections."

    Dean -- who has emerged as the front-runner among Democratic presidential contenders and was campaigning in Southern California -- is the first of the nine Democcratic presidential candidates to appear with Davis. All have signed a letter objecting to the recall.

    Davis said his camp will ask all of the Democrats who want to challenge President Bush next year to campaign against the recall when they make campaign stops in the state. Former President Clinton and other top Democrats already have agreed to hit the campaign trail with Davis.

    Asked if he would endorse Dean's candidacy for president, Davis said, "I'm going to take one election at a time."

    But Dean spoke out on Davis' behalf and said he was not worried about any potential political risk of appearing next to the unpopular governor. He said the recall is "not about Gray Davis' record," calling it an effort by Republicans to grab power.

    Dean ticked off recent events that he called efforts to "remove Democracy from America" on the part of conservative Republicans and the Bush administration, including the 2000 U.S. Supreme Court decision to stop a recount in the presidential election and redistricting efforts in Colorado and Texas that would help Republicans gain ground in Congress.

    "And finally we now have, in California, a self-financed initiative put on the ballot by one of the most right-wing, conservative members of the Congress, who paid for this largely out of his own money, to undo an election that has been held less than a year ago," Dean said. U.S. Rep Darrell Issa contributed millions of dollars of his own money to the effort to gather signatures and qualify the recall for the Oct. 7 ballot.

    Davis joined Dean in blaming Bush for California's woes, specifically the dismal economy that has driven the state's budget crisis and that recall backers cite as a chief reason that Davis should be tossed from office.

    "We have been losing jobs at an alarming rate since President Bush took office," Davis said.
     
  2. Friendly Fan

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    Ahnold is a girlie man
     
  3. Wild Bill

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    Total and utter hypocrisy. I would like to remind you all of the Trent Lott fiasco. Question: Shouldn't the same pressure be applied to Davis to resign by the same people who pressured Lott to resign his leadership of the Senate?

    Friendly Fan, are you saying Arnold is gay? Why use such a demeaning term? You should really be ashamed. I'm sure you wouldn't accept such behavior from President Bush. Would you accept it from Bobby Bird?
     
  4. TheFreak

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    Of course not, he's a Republican. Get serious.
     
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    I'm not SAYING he's gay

    but he IS a girlie man



    Bush is a girlie man, too. And Bobby Bird is an old, old girlie man.



    BTW, saying he's a girlie man is an insult, but saying he's gay isn't. I don't know if Arnold is literally gay. But he's very girlie. I mean what kind of man gets pedicures, shaves his body and dyes his hair? girlie man. What kind of man spends more time naked with men than with women? girlie man

    oh, he's a girlie man, alright. he probably goes both ways. he's probably let Carl Weathers do more than spot him.

    not that there's anything wrong with that. aren't most republican men gay? the ones on TV sure come off that way. I mean, is there a straight man working on Fox News? You can't tell me O'Reilly isn't an old queen, and Steve Doucy looks like he has worked more rest stops than George Michael.
     
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    Abso-freaking-lutely. Pressure. Not "recalling" a candidate you disagree with. It's a waste of tax dollars, time and resources. Plus, it takes attention off the real issues at hand.

    I'm absolutely appalled at what President Bush has done in office, but I wouldn't dream of trying to "recall" him. He was (allegedly) elected by the people and should serve his term.
     
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    you guys do know one of my sisters is gay and I'm just pimping the homophobes, don't you?
     
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    I think it's kind of ironic that this Davis guy attacked the foreign accent in front of a group of immigrants. How come they didn't realize he was indirectly attacking them as well...

    That said, I don't think it's a very big deal.
     
  9. Friendly Fan

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    I agree. It was insanely stupid.

    Gray Davis is a dork, and I'm not wasting any money or troops defending his sorry, lightweight azz.
     
  10. wouldabeen23

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    LOL!! HOw do ya think Rush got his Anal cysts to keep him out of the jungles of SE Asia?? Hmmm?? A little man love....
     
  11. jo mama

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    yes, hear me now and listen to me later...compared to hans and franz he is nothing but a flabby girlie man.

    i wonder how all the mexican immigrants in california took gray's comment?
     
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    Friendly Fan, my appologies for not recognizing that you are in fact a liberal AND have a gay sibling. By all means, please continue with your insensitive slurs. I forgot it only counts when your conservative. Just curios, do you also get away with using the N-word?

    Green Vegan, you didn't answer the question. Care to try again?

    BTW, as far as the recall goes, I can't say that my partisanship wouldn't lead me to hold the same view as democrats if the governor were a republican: however, it is a statute passed by democrats and used by democrats in the past. My point is that in all fairness, Davis should be pressured to resign for the comment.
     
  13. Friendly Fan

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    liberal? sometimes, often not


    ever use the N word? sure, when I'm with my homies




    here's a dollar. go buy yourself a sense of humor.
     
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  14. Wild Bill

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    Tell you what.. keep it and buy yourself some common sense.
     
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    I've really drawn you out of your shell. In the space of 24 hours, I've engaged you in your annual post production.

    I must be doing something right.




    Walk to me, Billy. You can do it.
     
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