Big 12 Expansion rumors

That shows how much you know about UH. Even the article Tinman posted basically said UH is best option but politics getting in the way. UT can go ahead and keep cockblocking but UH will get it done with or without Big12. So you can laugh out loud all you want at a Tier 1 institution (education aspect) but you look ignorant doing so. There's a reason UT is trying to put a hybrid campus over Buffalo Speedway area, they know this is the most important city in TX. UH will get into a P5 and make whatever conf they get in a lot of money & Big12 will continue to struggle with an overrated UT trying to control everything. If OU winds up bouncing to Big10 or SEC, it'd be a good thing UH goes elsewhere b/c then Big12 will be a UT going independent away from being the new AAC. Probably lose P5 standing as well, UH just trying to help out this soon to be pitiful conference clinging to UT & OU to keep their standing. They don't want the help then it'd be best for UH to wait for a better more stable conference.

 

I didn't attend UH I just went with dad & uncle to Dome many times to watch games. The article you posted shows that UH is the best option, other TX schools just don't want to lose recruits out of this city. Not news to me but you do understand its a load of crap to do that. Means they know what can happen they are just scared to let the monster out. You posted it, I'm just reading between the lines. UT/Baylor/Tech/TCU are scared of the city of Houston and UH! It's ok, they saw what happened in Miami and their U. Bun B, Paul Wall, Slim Thug, Kirko Bangs etc, will continue to support and help keep top talent in city while still being in AAC anyway. Like I said before, just keep doing what their doing, they can't keep making up excuses to say no.

 

When comparing UH to other Big12 schools from an education standpoint, UH is a no brainer. James Casey knows I bet. Arguing against that is ignorant so I don't care if he went to Rice. I like and support Rice as well anyway

 

I do agree with OU's president that they should go to 12 and the LHN should become a Big 12 Network. I'd love to see UH in there but I just don't think UT will let it happen. If they get to the point of negotiating expansion and the network, I guarantee that one of the things UT will demand is no UH in the league.

Cincy makes sense. They should find out if Nebraska is still not enjoying their time in the Big10. UCONN makes absolutely no sense. I don't understand Memphis or those directional Fla schools.

 

OH the logic that there are too many Big12 schools in TX already. What great logic. SEC will continue to win the city of Houston in ratings but hey there's too many TX schools already in Big12. The money UH will bring into conference is a lot but there's too many TX schools in Big12 already. Once TDECU is expanded to 60,000 will be bigger stadium than Baylor/TCU but there are too many TX schools in Big12 already. What a load a garbage of logic. The borders of TX are so important that the 9th largest TV market alone gets discriminated against? Cause that's what it basically is, esp since they admit they don't want to lose Houston talent, which UH is getting anyway now. If its this big of a deal then I would love for Houston to get out of TX and be our own state, would that stop the stupid argument that there are too many TX schools in Big12 already? State of Houston could then tax Austin/Dallas/SA for goods coming out of Port of Houston! It's not going to happen but it's just as dumb of an argument that there are too many TX schools in Big12.
Once UH gets into Pac12/ACC, there will be a 3 conference horse race for ratings in the city of Houston. Something the Big12 could completely dominate if they would just pick up UH.

 

I get why BigTexx laughed out loud, what I'm saying is comparing UH academics, which is Tier 1, to Big12 isn't laughable b/c they match up well with them. Did I ever say UH matched up to Rice academically? Your breakdown on why BigTexx was laughing out loud wasn't necessary. What was necessary is explaining the ignorance of laughing out loud at a Tier 1 institution when compared academically to other Big12 schools.
UH and their fans have been bullied and kicked around so much after SWC I'm surprised it was able to get back to higher athletic standards. Much of which has to do with new president. She's done an outstanding job. UH did well in attendance for the teams they were playing at home. I put in my very first post that the 60k stadium will fill up with coog fans or not; UT/OU/Tech/Bay/TCU/OklaSt will all fill stadium even when UH has a bad year. Sucks stadium will be filled with mostly other fans but as time goes on Cougar football has to create that culture. It might take 15-20 yrs but UH alum & fans will buy up enough season tix so that doesn't happen. The culture has to be brought back, which is hopefully starting now, b/c it was taken away after SWC. Most ppl know this but either hate on UH b/c they want their favorite TX school to not lose Houston recruits or they haven't paid attention/ignored this whole time and are just ignorant on the subject. Smart money is on UH and the conference that does take them in will be very happy they did.

 

Here's why. Even Big 12 school presidents understand how the Big 12 has slipped and is increasingly irrelevant in the national picture.

 

....what? Anyway, There is a very very very serious misunderstanding of value that you and your peers have when looking at the current market share that UH has in Houston. In short, it sucks. Two or 3 of the top 20 ratings broadcasts in THEIR OWN city is really bad. Like, really bad. If it was half of the top games then THAT would be value and every conference would be knocking down UH's door to get them.

So irrevant OU was a shoe in for the playoffs before the week of the conference championships?

Boren has run his mouth for years and only took a break when the Pac 12 told him they didn't want OU without UT. He is right about changing the longhorn network into a big 12 network but the "psychological disadvantage" is just dumb. It's really dumb. I get that their name has a 12 in it but they could expand if they wanted but there isn't a desire unless you are talking about getting bigger programs from other power 5 conferences.

I personally like the round robin schedule a lot more than the previous rotating divisional arrangement. You foster more meaningful rivalaries when you play a team every year and when they come to play in your home town every other year. You also don't get years where UT plays Kansas St and not Kansas and OU plays Kansas and not Kansas St. Alabama plays South Carolina 1 time every 6 years but they are still in the same "conference"? Give me a break. Still, I would be fine with giving that up if it meant bringing in solid programs.

I understand you and many others want to blame UT for all of their problems. I am really tired of hearing that "UT is keeping UH out." None of the schools in Texas want UH in and I have a hard time believing the rest of the big 12 is dying for a new regional texas conference. NO BIG 5 Conference has 5 teams from a single state.

 

I don't care about UT. My contention is that UH should be more interested in joining the PAC12 or the ACC than the Big 12 because the Big 12 is the least of the power five conferences. Frankly I could see both UT and OU bolting that conference at some point.

 

I agree with all that. The Big 12 is the P5 conference no school wants to be in unless you aren't in a P5 conference. If you aren't in a P5 conference, then the Big 12 will do until something better comes along.

 

The Big XII has consistently lost power and prestige to the point that it is one of the weaker 1-2 P5 conferences... It is all a result of poor management and a lack of vision, primarily by UT.

As for UH, they would be better off in a more stable conference like the PAC or ACC.

The Big XII has real issues with UT and the prospect of OU leaving.

 

UT was offered an entire ESPN channel dedicated solely to Longhorn Sports 24/7 all while being paid 300M over 20 years. There isn't a single school that wouldn't have signed up right at the spot. If the Big 12 fails, UT will have their first choice of conferences to join. Sure, LHN would likely be no more but network deals would likely be renegotiated and UT will prob make more if not a wash. How is that a lack of vision by their part? If the conference fails, it fails, but UT will be fine, even better if we can start producing on the field.

But it's funny how UT gets knocked for looking out for its own interests rather than the conferences when UH folks are foaming at the mouth to jump ship on their own. Yes it's an upgrade but if the Big 12 is as weak as you stated, wouldn't moving be an upgrade for us as well?

 

People seriously like to bash UT and the LHN because nobody else got a deal like that. For UT it was such a simple decision. You basically have to do nothing and get paid 20 mil a year. The hate is a case of "you hate us cause you ain't us". Why should we give it up? If it comes to joining a new conference something will be worked out. But Texas is going to be forced to take a tag along team with it if they leave. Tech and/or Baylor much in the same way OU has to take OK St. Look, the big 12 is a joke, but uh doesn't belong. They don't bring tv markets and they don't bring in money. They don't have a strong history of winning. They struggled to sell out their games in a winning season. Uh is in the process of trying to become more than a commuter school, but they are still a ways away from it. I really think Texas OU ok state and tech or Baylor are going to end up in another conference together. I don't know how uh to the pac makes any sense for anyone. Enjoy playing a bunch of games till midnight.

 

That's how I felt when my team was in the conference. UT's deal was sweet - how could you hate on it without sounding butthurt?

I was however, mad at the conference for allowing it. Only UT stood to gain from that rule change, it showed that the Big 12 was weak. They hurt every other member of the conference when they did it.

 

It's funny how reports are coming out from different sources that UH isn't being considered for big 12 expansion and now they're too good for the conference which is apparently crashing and burning with 9 years left on a ridiculous tv contract and a champion that easily made the playoffs.

Entertaining article about Kirk Bohls at the station talking bout the same stuff. UT issued a response about Boren basically saying that we are going to keep our talks private and at the big 12 meetings.

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