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Can a player be a HOF without being a superstar?

Discussion in 'NBA Dish' started by Houstunna, Dec 6, 2015.

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Yay or Nay?

  1. Yes

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  2. No

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  3. IDK

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  1. Houstunna

    Houstunna Mr Graphix
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    Sounds weird that a player who's good enough to be a HOF isn't a superstar, but I think it happens alot.

    Maybe the better question is what's the definition of superstar.


    Question doesn't have to be basketball only.
     
  2. DMO (DJ remix)

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    Take Dmo as example, already HOF'er.

    On this website
     
  3. vcchlw

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    Robert Horry?
     
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    Ray Allen future HOFer.
     
  5. Houstunna

    Houstunna Mr Graphix
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    Robert is neither.

    Dennis Rodman was the player who got me thinking.
     
  6. heypartner

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    Well, Scottie Pippen is a HOFer, and I don't think many called him a Superstar. And the Russell-era Celtics got something like 8 HOFers voted in...that's a wee bit too many for one dynasty.

    But Superstar definition aside,,,Yes, I'd say there is such thing as HOF defensive players/rebounders. Few though.

    Deke and Rodman

    and I assume the question is about exclusively NBA careers, and not international and FIBA events.
     
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  8. Houstunna

    Houstunna Mr Graphix
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    Good point about his passing, I'd forgotten. I don't think Pippen was a superstar either.

    And yes, championships definitely elevate a player's HOF chances although the player might not be a superstar.

    Also, as far as definition, some people equate "superstar" to how famous a player is, not necessarily talent level.
     
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    Ben Wallace: 4x DPOY (tied with Dikembe Mutombo).
     
  11. Houstunna

    Houstunna Mr Graphix
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    Lopsided poll...

    Can a player be a HOF without being a star?


    Has every HOF player been an All-Star?

    Ben Wallace - check
    Mutombo - check
    McHale - check
    Jesus Shuttleworth - check
    Pippen - check
    Rodman - check
    Ginobili - check


    International guys might be the only exceptions
     
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    Basketball HOF is not strictly NBA play, so technically yes. But specific to NBA play, Rodman comes to mind.
     
  13. roksoer

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    Rodman is a superstar, especially off the court.
     
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    Lin is a HOF talent, but will probably never get inducted because everyone is racist.
     
  15. sealclubber1016

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    Superstar is a term that means different things to different people. Plenty of players have made the HOF without being what I would call a superstar (top 5 player, best player on a championship level team)

    Can a player make it without being an all-star level player, no.
     
  16. SeekingAlpha

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    The Naismith basketball hall of fame includes guys who contribute to the game of basketball in some significant fashion. Basketball extends beyond just the realm of the NBA.

    Although the OP had mentioned 'player', a once NBA player or even college player can still make it to the HOF by status of coaching legend.

    And of course you could argue neither Alonzo Mourning nor Chris Mullin were superstars in their prime.
     
  17. Houstunna

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    Indeed. His style and antics made Rodman extra famous.


    True, that's why I kept stressing "player".

    Any players make it from mostly their college careers?

    Bill Walton comes to mind as injury hampered his pro career.
     
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  18. heypartner

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    I'm pretty sure every HOF inducts coaches and even owners. They all designate what category the person was inducted -- one of which is player.
     
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    Makes me think of Yaomania. Yao was a superstar, though only briefly. But, I think he should be in the Hall of Fame more for being the first legit Chinese player in the west and it being a huge deal. Moreso than for what he produced on the court.
     
  20. SeekingAlpha

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    For what it's worth, Marques Haynes, made it to the HOF without having much of an NBA career at all. One of the best dribblers of his time, and brought the spotlight on the Harlem Globetrotters. Also played on the Globetrotter team that ended up beating Mikan-led Lakers in 1949.
     

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