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Mobley Starting to outplay the best

Discussion in 'Houston Rockets: Game Action & Roster Moves' started by RockenRam5, Feb 10, 2001.

  1. RockenRam5

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    Ever since Cuttino has been moved into the starting lineup, he has played great against the best at his position(Iverson, Carter, and Stack). Twice this year Cat has outplayed Vincanity. He outshot, outscored, and outpassed Vince in both the games against Toronto, one on national TV. Just recently, in back-to-back games, on the road, and on back-to-back nights Mobley has topped A.I. and Stack in their own backyard. Granted Iverson outscored Mobley, but Mobley was every getting more assists, more rebounds, and 5 stls(the total of the Philadelphia team). And against Detroit he flat out shot light outs and really frustrated Jerry. Stack was 8-26 w/ 26pts while Mobes was 10-14 w/ 29pts. He made him play D, and Mobley has done that a lot of late.
    This is a very good trend. If he plays great against the best he will make the Rockets a much better and hopefully a playoff team come the end of the year. Any other thoughts on a good thing Mobley has done.

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    He is starting to be one of the best at his position already!

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    take a guess who was guarding Stack and Carter, (but not so much Iverson). That would be Shandon.

    This 2 headed monster swing combo is very nice to have.

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    Mboley was also gaurding them some of the time.

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    I would say Mobley is the second best SG in the West behind Kobe.

    Starks, Derick Anderson (Close), Micheal Dickerson (Close), Eisley, Penny, Bonzi, S Smith, Hughes, LAC guys (Miles may be better in future, but the future is always changing).

    I may be missing someone good, but these guys aren't better than Mobley. DA and MD are close, but in the purpose of keeping chemistry, I rank Mobley higher.

    Yes, he makes mental mistakes. yes he has bad games. yes, he takes too many hard shots. Why do these happen? He forces the action. The only way to defend him is to foul or hope he misses now. He has improved every year.

    Seeing Maxwell all those years makes me happy to have Mobley who is realtively under control.



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    Is Micheal Finley a Foward or a Gaurd. If he is a Guard, I would rank him a little higher because he plays on a better team and is less selfish.

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    I saw Mobley guard Carter much more than Shandon did, in both games. If you look up past threads after these games, you will see that others say the same thing.

    Mobley guarded Sprewell, too. The trend I see is that Rudy puts Mobley on the same guy who guards him.

    I am blanking out on the Detroit game as far as who guarded Stackhouse, and who guarded Mobley. Anyone with a tape?
     
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    Hughes can't shoot! What? 38%...sheesh!
    Dickerson is never double teamed, so you can't compare him to Mobley.
     
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    partner-Mobley guarded Sprewell because someone had to guard Allan Houston. Sprewell is a little closer to Mobley's size than Houston is.

    I totally agree that Hughes is a pathetic shooter, but he is a very good scorer. Probably shouldn't have included him.

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    WHAT ARE YOU SMOKING????

    did you watch the raptors game on TBS at all???
    Cuttino was only on the floor when Vince was on the floor, and he defended Vince the whole night. Cuttino made him alter his shots, and made him quite frustrated. there was even a point where they dueled for a few possessions, and Cat won the duel.

    i may not get to watch all the rockets games, but I deffinately watched that one. Cat guarded Vince. PERIOD. i dont think shandon lined up against him once. not even in help situations. it was usually walt.

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    VOR right. It was Mobley who also made Jerry change numerous shots that lead to turnovers or misses and eventually a fastbreak bucket. The game on TBS was great when him and Vince went head-to-head for a couple of minutes. Mobley nailed a jumper once and Vince respected his range and got up on him, and then Mobley blew right by him for another score. Thats what I love about Cat, he isn't one-dimensional, he has range and a quick first step. You could tell Vince was pissed/embarassed because he could do nothing about Mobley. He even admitted it after the game.

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    Finley has played fwd almost all season although the NBA has him in the all star game as a guard. Dallas would prefer to play Dirk at the 3 and move Finley back to the 2 but they are not willing to sacrifice 20+ points and almost 10 boards a game at the 4. So until Dallas moves Dirk back to the 3 expect Finley to remain a 3.

    In my opinion Mobes is the 3rd or 4th best 2 in the west.

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    How come whenever I checked the votes for gaurds in the West, Derek Anderson has a lot but Mobles total doesn't even show up. Mobley is so much better then him yet DA gets more press for being a big name out of college. And whats up with Avery Johnson getting more votes then Mobley. I think the all-star game is a popularity contest.

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    offense isn't the question. Not many, if any, can stop Mobley, except Mobley himself.

    Defensively, historically Shandon picks up the toughest defensive assignment at the 2/3. If you want isolated defensive plays, what about Jerry dribbling it up the court, and Shandon absolutely picking his pocket. one of the Raptors game was a game Shandon only played 25 minutes. I recall him missing the entire 4th, and probably half of the 3rd. If Shandon isn't in, someone has to guard Vince. Remind me again why we are arguing over this?

    As other West SGs go, Mobley can definitely have an argument for the 2nd best behind Kobe (Finley assumed SF), but a good claim can be made for Dickerson, D. Anderson, and Hughes. As for combos, the only team that could touch Mobley/Anderson would be Portland's Smith/Wells.

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