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Rockets Hot Topic #1: Does Cuttino Mobley Finish The Season a Rocket?

Discussion in 'Houston Rockets: Game Action & Roster Moves' started by MacBeth, Aug 30, 2003.

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Will Cuttino Mobley finish the season as a Houston Rocket?

Poll closed Sep 29, 2003.
  1. Yes

    152 vote(s)
    66.7%
  2. No

    76 vote(s)
    33.3%
  1. MacBeth

    MacBeth Member

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    Okay, as this has been a long off season, with precious little actual player movement to talk about, I propose a series of Hot Topic Rocket debates on various member, citing the key questions about key members of the team. I know that many of us have had all these discussion before, but I though a sort of Put It On The Line closing arguments kind of thing might help get us through the remaining weeks until opening tip off.


    For the opening topic I thought I'd go with a fairly clear one: Will the Cat finish the season as a Rocket? Many think he's trade bait now, amny think JVG is playing wait and see, many think he's a cornerstone, etc. And, yeah, you can always says " Depends..." But I'm saying, all depends aside, what's your prediction in the final analysis? Lay it on the line, and say why...



    Possible future Hot Topic Debate QUestions include: Will Steve play most of his minutes/finish the season at the one or two guard spot, will eddie griffin log the lion's share of minutes at the power forward position, who will be our starting small forward at season's end, and will Yao Ming lead the team in scoring this season. Post suggestions for others if you feel like it.
     
  2. rockets-#1

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    I just hope he does. JVG mentioned him as one of the "three" when he was talking about coming here, so I hope he has faith in him. Keep Da Cat!
     
  3. yaonotyo

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    I hope not, I hope we can pull off a trde with Indy say a Al harrington for Cuttino Mobley. I think Pike and Adrian Griffin can handle the 2 guard for one season, then we can find a quality starring 2 guard by the draft, maybe a mid first ronder can get us a quality player.
     
  4. Stylez

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    Yes Cuttino will finish the season as a Rocket. Unless the Rox are completely ran over by an offer, it makes no sense to trade him. He's the only Rock thats played in a playoff game as a Rock and he doesn't make a lot of money for putting up 17ppg and te CBA is a b!%@h. Al Harrington, not worth it. Some average PF, not worth it. Only an all-star player can replace Mobes and I just don't see anything like that going down. Mobes should and will finish this season (and hopefully his career) as a Houston Rocket.
     
  5. couch_pot8o

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    i for one once wants cat be traded before.. but, when i looked at it on another point of view, i think cat is essential for this team to be successful. a good defender, a great spot up shooter, a good slasher.. the only problem to be fixed is his mentality to ball hog every time he has a chance and he somewhat wants those impossible shots. i think jvg can help cat. so i vote keep cat!
     
  6. DallasThomas

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    Cuttino's one of my favorite Rockets players of all time...wasn't it his first or second game when he was playing with three future hall of famers that the rookie Mobley was given the ball on the last play of the game and cold-bloodedly hit the game winning 3 pointer? I'm sure something along those lines did occur, and I was watching that game live, so he became my new favorite Rocket player that season because a.)Screw Pippen; 2.)Dream wasn't playing well at all by then; and d.)Barkley's more important to people like that guy "amarerulz". But anyways, Mobley is one of the most underrated players in any league, and of course he's the easiest Rocket to trade because of his abilities in ratio to his salary. So I do think he's gonna be gone, sadly.
     
  7. yaonotyo

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    You dont think Harrington is woth it? pts 12.2 rpg6.2 aspg 1.5 fg% 43 plus he has way more playoff experience than cat and he is 6 years younger plus i think we can make the playoffs with pike and a.griff sharing time at the 2 guard for 1 season.
     
  8. Stylez

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    Originally Posted by yaonotyo
    No he's not worth it. Way more playoff experience? I guess if you call losing in the 1st round every year and personally disappearing for the most part more experience knock yourself out. The plan to let Pike and Griffin play the SG for one year and then get agood one in the draft is easier saud than done. Pike is gonna get killed on D and Griffin is gonna give us nothing on O. I like them both as backups but I don't want either of them playing heavy mins for us ever. Trading Mobes for Harrington still gives us a hole at the SG spot now instead of the SF hole we have. Nothing is solved.
     
  9. Yetti

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    Yes the Cat will finish this season as a Rocket.
    Only if he dribbles less, shoots only high percentage shots, passes the ball, acknowledges Yao Ming as a significant contributor to the scoring of the Rockets. He will of course play great defence.
     
  10. GladiatoRowdy

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    JVG will have the offense running through Yao and EG in the post (just wait, EG haters) with SF and CM playing the punisher roles when people double off of the bigs. CM and SF start getting lots of looks on cuts to the basket with the ball in the post and Yao increases his assists to 4-5 per game. SF and CM both see their FG% go up dramatically as they start taking better shots within the system rather than having to heave up prayers after 18 seconds of dribbling.

    JVG will not make a trade until at least February or so and even then only of a can't pass deal for Rice's expiring contract comes up.
     
  11. MacBeth

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    No biggie, but just to clarify, I wanted to point out that the question, as asked, isn't so much do you want Cuttino to finish the season as a Rocket, or even should he, but merely will he. There seems to have been a little confusion about this, so I thought I'd nip it in the bud.

    Feel free to discuss the other aspects, but when voting, try to keep the specifics of the question in mind.
     
  12. Batman Jones

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    My prediction and my hope is that he will stay. Under Rudy (whom I love) it was the other way around. All Cat needs is the discipline to play smarter and I think Van Gundy can provide that. Much as I loved Rudy, he apparently couldn't. But Cat couldn't possibly play harder and his contract is among the best bargains in the league. I hope he'll stay, improve and eventually be rewarded with another, fatter contract. Eddie couldn't possibly play softer and I really never saw what anyone ever saw in him. I also don't see any great improvement in his future. He just doesn't seem to have any fire at all and he actually got worse in his second year. He is a shot blocker only. Can't shoot, sucks at defense. I'd be happy to see him gone. I'd be happier, of course, to be entirely wrong about him.
     
  13. ROXTXIA

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    I wonder if Cat will even start the season as a Rocket.

    It seems likely because trades are seldom simple. But we have Pike/A-Griff/Steve/maybe Hawk to play the 2. Cat is a little short to play the 3, except in our former coach's system.
     
  14. Batman Jones

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    Nobody in that list beats Cat out except for Steve. And considering we don't have another guy on the roster who can play the point at all, I'd say Cat's safe for now.
     
  15. pasox2

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    Cat is in the way. I think he goes, so Steve can play, so Yao can play. He's never going to help them. He can't play 2 positions - that limits Steve. He can't set picks. He can't feed Yao. He can't run a p&r or off screens. He has to dribble and chuck. O...U...T - out.
     
  16. SLA

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    I have no idea! I don't know what the Rockets will be like....everything about the Rockets is mysterious! For example...their logo. I wouldn't trade him for Al Harrington. I think he will remain a starter...but will STEVE FRANCIS finish this season as a Rocket? Okay...well yeah BYC crap. But who knows..maybe JVG will hate him.
     
  17. OmegaSupreme

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    cat will finish the season as a rocket, mickey b.

    bargain contract, excellent player, great attitude.

    however, i wouldn't be the least bit surprised to see him coming off of the bench at some point during the season. our starting five is completely incompatible with him in there. whether he can handle that remains to be seen, but i think he can and will.
     
  18. tigereye

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    YES HE WILL

    Being that I am also a long time Knicks fan, I believe I can help here.

    Van Gundy always sticks up for his players, especially the one's who help the team succeed. Despite being a sort of ballhog, you have to admit that Cat's 20 point plus games always help us. And there not rare either. He averaged 17.5 points a game last season, not to mention for his career. Van Gundy will appreciate the offensive weapons he brings to the table. But JVG will also try to reform his game too, in getting him to pass the ball. And I guarantee you this, he will get through to all of his players including Cat.

    The one I dont see staying here too much longer is EG. He bombed out in the Summer Leagues and its no secret that JVG is not to thrilled with his work ethic. This could bring about a clash between these two at some point, resulting in EG's departure.

    And with teams like Atlanta seeking cap space, I wouldnt be suprised if Rice is gone either.

    Beside the two fore mentioned, I think the roster will stay intact and this team will finally achieve its lofty expectations.
     
  19. Williamson

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    i voted yes. when all is said and done, he's just too much bang for the buck. you don't send off one of your few underpaid players unless you're getting a whole lot in return. i just don't see it happening.
     
  20. francis 4 prez

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    huh?? who in the pg/sg rotation (much less sf rotation) is even close to mobley at this point? there is a sizable gap b/t mobley and anyone competing for 4th best player on this team. you start your 5 best unless another top 5 guy plays the same position and has nowhere else to go. that doesn't apply to us. the only way he goes to the bench is if we bring in some badass sg b/c we certainly aren't bringing in a modest upgrade to mobley when the 3 and 4 are far more pressing issues. mobley certainly isn't riding pine while steve plays sg and moochie plays pg.



    did you mean EG or boki? eg didn't play in the summer leagues and from DoD's reports dominated them when he did last year. i assume the bad work ethic goes with EG and the bombed out goes with boki.
     

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