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Official Fire McHale Thread

Discussion in 'Houston Rockets: Game Action & Roster Moves' started by FTW Rockets FTW, Apr 19, 2012.

  1. dmoneybangbang

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    Likewise. So we negate each other and McHale is average.
     
  2. dmoneybangbang

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    Actually... McHale still being around and us still winning is somewhat validating. So I have the favor.
     
  3. TheFreak

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    On Thornton - you don't know why he didn't play, you don't know how he would have played or what the outcome would have been had he played. You don't know what adjustments the other team would have made had he played.

    On calling the timeout - you don't know why a timeout wasn't called, you don't know what would have happened had a timeout been called, you don't know what adjustments the other team would have made had a timeout been called. You don't know if that timeout would have been needed later or not.

    On top of all that, it's an 82 game season and not all coaching decisions are made with only the current game in mind. Yet you will sit here and complain non-stop like you have a crystal ball.
     
  4. el_locoteee

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    This is what a HOF coach do in timeouts.
    http://m.bleacherreport.com/articles/1983480-gregg-popovich-reveals-timeout-secret-ive-got-nothing

    And also this HOF coach is famous for letting their player got thru bad times without calling timeouts. Hey but McHale don't know what to do.
     
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    This is exactly what I've been saying . So many people want to run plays , have a well defined system etc ... But letting the players figure it out yields better results in the long run . No one here knows anything regarding details . Most of what we hear during interviews etc is classic coachspeak. McHales record and player reviews speak for themselves.
     
  6. dmoneybangbang

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    Agreed. Our team philosophy is more or less organized chaos based on our personnel and the coaching reflects that. We just aren't going to look organized in the classical basketball sense.
     
  7. jordnnnn

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    Was listening to the most recent NBA Lockdown podcast and one of the Twitter questions asked to the group was why hasn't Houston fired McHale? #hireThibs

    I was kind of surprised that the group basically clowned the guy for the suggestion. They all said McHale is fine and that they couldn't see anyone but Bev putting up and enjoying Thibs coaching style.

    Not that these guys are all knowing, but an interesting outside perspective that somewhat surprised me. Not 1 thought it was a good idea.
     
  8. DraftBoy10

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    Those Popovich examples are horrible, absolutely horrible. Ill throw down when I'm home.
     
  9. DraftBoy10

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    This is what a HOF coach does when he wants to hold his player accountable for ****ING up sets that to go over countless times in practice. He's not going to bust out the marker board and draw up a play. Plays are already ingrained in the team, if you **** up, he'll take you out.

    <iframe width="703" height="395" src="https://www.youtube.com/embed/I6EHpkZjFL0" frameborder="0" allowfullscreen></iframe>

    McHale has absolutely no system to base it off.

    Mind you, I'm a fan of not calling timeouts as I said earlier in this thread. But don't make it seem like since Pop does it, and techincally Phil does too, that it validates McHale. Phil/Pop's system are PROVEN WINNERS, multiple time championship winning systems. Not some gimmick.

    And for the record, Pop calls time outs more often than not when momentum swings out of control. The only worthwhile times to draw something up for an out of bounds play is when you call it near the bucket, or end of game situations. I don't think a single coach draws up a play 94 feet from the bucket.
     
  10. cheke64

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    It's always some idiot stirring up the pot.
     
  11. DraftBoy10

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    It's not plays, it's a system. And that's absolutely right to have.

    The system needs to be based off of Morey's key ideas-- 3pt shots and layups, and getting to the FT line. The system should ALLOW for easier time to get those exact opportunities. Not drive & kick, and iso Harden.

    The Spurs don't have "set" plays, well they do, but minimal. Their offense is predicated if the defense makes them go right, left, and if picks are switched, hedged, or what not. For example, if the ball swings right, the left corner is ALWAYS occupied. Vice versa, and look for the big man to come to the elbow to the opposite elbow.

    It's about a system that shows off-ball player movement to get the highest percentage shot. The Spurs can blindfold their players and know where they'll be.

    The Rockets are just a bunch of chaotic, supremely talented and athletic super beings. It's true.

    Organize it, and it's the best damn team. This team dwarfs the Warriors in sheer talent.
     
  12. SF3isBack!!

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    Again someone already addressed this, just like most of your points have been addressed ad nauseum in this thread. You can have a bad coach and still win, there are times to let players play through things, that 16-0 run by the Kings wasn't one of them. If you guys want to go by the media, the last time they did coach rankings Mchale's rank was the lowest of all playoff coaches. It's the same old, same old, blah blah blah. Anyway we have a great team, plenty of talent but I don't think Mchale is the guy to lead us to a championship. The only way is if we get even more talent and James Harden plays above the level he played at last year. There are going to be times in the playoffs where Harden is cold ad you are going to need to be organized a bit better. Regardless I hope the Rockets win a ring this season. Anyway it might be time to retire this thread it's just the same points over and over again.
     
  13. larsv8

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    Because its not a good idea.

    The McHale garbage is a false narrative created by a the vocal idiots which infest this forum.
     
  14. vstexas09

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    we always play down to the level of competition....

    this is a lack of preparation...
     
  15. dmoneybangbang

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    Likewise. Look, I'm just deferring to our front office. They've had chances to drop McHale and stuck with him.
     
  16. HayesIsBack

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    Won't call a timeout with the opponent going on a 9-0 run in the 4th quarter.
     
  17. DraftBoy10

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    Our front office refuses to acknowledge an antagonist pov.

    This would make them realize their deficiencies sooner.
     
  18. OpenLayup-Why3?

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    DMo would be out of NBA if Howard and Jones didn't get injured last year. Because McHale did not see DMo's talent. He was forced to play DMo.
    Thornton didn't play in first 2 games at all. Since then he was our best player, because McHale was forced to play him.
    McHale is beyond bad at talent recognition so he sends every rookie to D-league their first season. No exceptions. He's beyond bad at coaching in general. But he's not resigning, it's Morey's fault. I blame Morey.
     
  19. ind0fo0

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    like chickens with their heads cut off... this happens FAR too often for a team with this much talent. horrible.
     
  20. vstexas09

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    you get 4 days rest, and this is what you have to show for it?

    dumbass
     

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