This isn't that scary, what's really scary is the people are buying it, that is unless you don't think the poll numbers have any accuracy. How can anyone with a straight face think Carson would be a good president? Trump I can somewhat see, but Carson? Seriously?
Why wouldn't they be happy? They're share of growth/wealth has been the highest it's ever been since the gilded age of the 1800s. The stock market has been doing great, almost tripled since 2008, flush with free money and zero interest rates? Why aren't they happy again?
I think this is wrong. The moderate candidate is why they lost and they believe the way to win is to have a candidate that truly represent them.
Then they are pure half-wits. No way a rational mind would believe Trump or Carson could win a general election.
Because they could have all that AND save all that money they've instead invested in presidential elections. How does backing a loser for president help you, when it's cheaper to do nothing?
That's what the consensus still is. They will eventually pick someone that is sane. I don't know. I'm at a 50/50.
Because someone credible might rise and actually win it? I don't really buy the theory that big corporate interests and the wealthy are behind the rise of Trump and Carson. They both have very little superpac money. Carson's money comes from the evangelical electorate. The corporate money is going to: Jeb Bush, Ted Cruz, Rubio and before Scott Walker.
They support the radical right candidates, even though they can't win, because it affects the overall net narrative of the country. As they push the GOP further to the right, the Democrats move further to the right to capture the center right voters. Democrats are not going to lose the election by losing leftist, who are they going to vote for? (this is why Bernie's campaign is so important even though he can't win; he balances the narrative) If you turn the election cycle into an asylum, crazy looks normal. Then you buy the local elections by outspending your un-corporate-supported opponents sensationalizing blatant hot button social issues that get the middle class to vote against their own economic interest. They feel like good God fearing Americans and 1% continue to get oil subsidies, offshore profit protection, low wages, union busting, and every loophole their lobbyist can think of. Trump is in it for Trump, he will be more powerful and profitable win or lose (the nomination)
Yeah, they're pulling the Democrats to the right. They'd better look out: when the Republican party dies, the party that replaces it may be to the left of the Democrats!
While it is somewhat entertaining watching the libtard navel-gazing of a "discussion" about the candidates on the right side of the aisle (as if any of the libtards understood the first thing about conservatism or how conservatives - a.k.a. normal people - actually think), my message is for my fellow travelers who are interested in seeing what a Trump presidency might hold. This post is a warning to those on the right that they'd better think **really** hard about going down that path. I am a fairly dyed-in-the-wool conservative, both socially and fiscally, and while there are a handful of issues that I go libertarian on (like legalization of drugs, for example), for the most part I'm a near-perfect representative of the Republican base. I'm a reliable vote for the GOP every two years. But like most base Republicans, I despise my own party and am not remotely happy with their performance over the past couple of decades. I certainly share the widespread desire to throw a good chunk of my own party over the ship's rails and not look back. In that respect, I get Trump's appeal. But here's my warning to those who are entertaining this in any serious way: I will not vote for Donald Trump for President under any circumstance. Let that sink in. I will never vote for another Democrap for as long as I live, as I consider it a borderline traitorous party even if many of its followers are fine people, but if the choice comes down to Trump v. Clinton, then I will simply sit this one out or find another conservative to vote for, knowing full well that as the millions like me do the same we will be handing the election to Hillary Freaking Clinton. And yes, I understand what a complete disaster that would be for the country. Why would I do such a thing? Because of all the 3,842 or whatever yahoos running for the GOP nomination, I truly belive that Donald Trump would likely actually make a worse POTUS than Hillary Freaking Clinton. I do not believe that the man has an ideological core given his almost daily shifting positions on any number of hard issues that generally develop and evolve over years or decades for most individuals. He will clearly say whatever he thinks people want to hear. I expect that from Democraps, not GOP candidates. He also has a very childish and erratic temperament that I do not believe is suitable for the office. Reading many of his tweets I feel is akin to reading a stream of consciousness belonging to an immature, angst-filled teenager, not a grown man. He is clearly a megalomaniacal, ego-driven individual whose candidacy is built upon a foundation of entitlement - just as Hillary Freaking Clinton. I strongly suspect that his reign would be fascistic in nature, even more so than a Clinton reign. I get a strong feeling from his statements that rule of law is inconsequential to him; again, I expect that from Democraps, but not from a GOP candidate. I will vote for any GOP candidate in the general election other than Donald Trump. Any one of them would be light years better than Hillary Freaking Clinton in almost every way. Any one of them. My personal preferences are either Rubio or Cruz, and I like a few of the others (Fiorina, Christie, Jindal) as VP or for cabinet positions as well. But if Trump is the nominee, then I'm likely just gonna sit this one out. Understand, I have voted in almost every national election over the past two decades, usually in primaries as well - I am the GOP base. If I and millions like me sit this out because a portion of our party wants to shove Donald Freaking Trump down everyone's throats as a big middle finger to the party, then all I've got to say is enjoy another 8 years of Democrap rule. It would likely mean the death of the Republican party and cement Democrap rule for at least a decade, which would be a shame, as the people don't really like them either. I won't vote for an egomaniacal fascist. That wouldn't be an improvement over Hillary Freaking Clinton, it would be the same or worse. It's time to get real about this election and stop the footsies with fake candidates like Trump. We've got a fantastic opportunity here to break the Democraps. Hillary Freaking Clinton will be their nominee, and she is a severely damaged and flawed candidate. We have several fantastic candidates who not only should have little problem making mincemeat of her in a general, but who would also likely make for a fine POTUS, and the down-ballot effects of having a quality candidate at the top could be enormous. Don't piss this opportunity away just to elect a middle-finger candidate who would govern on a whim if elected. He wouldn't win anyway - it's pretty tough to win an election when your base is home watching Archie Bunker re-runs and sewing crosses into their white bedsheets (as we conservatives are wont to do, eh libtards? ).
Define normal. Do you mean old, white, male, rural, bible beater? Are we not normal? or still foreign to you?
Are Asians non-normal? How about Hispanics? or Jews? Young people not normal? What about Women? Are women normal? What about college graduates? Are we normal?
Here's some news for you treeman. You guys messed up when you lost the Asians. I know it bewilders you. How can a highly educated and affluent demographic that depends little on social welfare, vote Liberal? Especially all those Asians who come from oppressive socialist countries? I'll tell you why You don't think we're normal. Asians and Hispanics are the two fastest growing demographics in America. And while you guys take aim at hispanics over immigration. You should be more worried about Asian immigration. While hispanic population growth was due to births, over 60% of Asian growth is due to immigration. 75% of Asian adults are foreign born. Sorry to say man, but we're the new normal, and you can't have your country back.
One last graph, although you'll probably be dead by 2065, but the trends are clear. You should be nice to us.
Being a conservative presidential candidate these days basically equates to how anti-Obama/Hillary you can be and how big of a hole you can blow in the budget with your tax cut plan. This is why Ted Cruz is a true conservative.
GOP has fractured into pieces as some of those pieces have radicalized, displaying cult like behaviors. i.e., they won't back a potential winner if it's not their savior of choice. They'll try to tear them down instead of rallying behind. I don't see anybody that can unite all the factions and actually give it a good run in the general. As an independent who has voted multiple parties, I can't take the GOP seriously. How can a GOP candidate fix the country when they can't even fix their own party?
I see this argument a lot. It's really a stupid argument if you ask me. How can someone claim to be a party of diversity because of who they prop up as presidential candidates despite their constituents being overly white? I mean Dems have 3 candidates. Republicans have 18. It's really a dumb argument and its similar to someone saying "I'm not racist, I have a minority friend."
