Do whatever you want? It's all in fun. As I said, until I find more conversation on this BBS like I've had with scouts and coaches, all I'm left doing with any amount of fun is bashing the bashers on their behalf. And you never have to extend an olive branch...your thoughtful opinion is all I request. [This message has been edited by heypartner (edited February 05, 2001).]
Hmmm..are we seeing a back-slide towards the "belligerent" HeyPee?? I hope so...it makes for ultra-fun reading.. BTW HP....wearing out the dime-a-dozen phrase aintcha?? ------------------ You would have to pry the ball outta his hands with a crowbar. Bill Worrell referring to Cuttino. [This message has been edited by Rockets2K (edited February 05, 2001).]
Let me clarify my position... The reason depth makes it easier for teams to be in contention is that there are SO many good teams in the West that they beat up on each other. Few teams out west are absolutely dominating the rest of the Western Conference. Because the West is so deep, records here are moderated because each team is winning some and losing some in the west. By contrast, Philly, one of the few decent teams in the east, is racking up wins because it plays in a conference where it is one of the only really good teams. Put them out west and they are a 5 or 6 seed at best. Second, if you don't like Rudy, great. There has never been a shortage of people who think Rudy is a bad coach. No matter who the coach is, there are people everywhere who believe that he is a loser. No biggie. That being said, he is not the sole reason for us losing. Not in a million years. I don't know if you guys are watching the NBA in a vacuum but this team is NOT that good. We have outstanding backcourt talent, but nothing else. We have NO defense, depth or size in the frontcourt. I'll say it again - Carlos Rogers is NOT the answer. Never has been and never will be. He should be the 10th guy on your bench at best. He is not a guy that will ever get big minutes on any team. Even if he did, he would wind up injured quickly. I said at the outset of the season that I was just going to watch and enjoy the team as it is without worrying about wins and losses. I didn't think we would make the playoffs. I didn't even think we would make .500. I still believe that. But, this team is fun to watch and they have a lot of young talent. I am happy to see their growth, glad watch them as individuals and content to wait until the pieces fall into place. There has always been an element of disrespect towards the Rockets throughout the media around the country. Everyone knows that I think. However, hearing them say the Rockets aren't very good this year doesn't really constitute a serious bias or lack of knowledge of the game. It is accurate. Just like the entire Eastern Conference sucks, the Rockets aren't a good basketball team. That isn't any one person's fault, IMO. Lack of talent, injuries, chemistry problems and off-the-court distractions are the real culprits here. No coach could overcome all that. ------------------ Me fail English? That's unpossible.
this is a fun thread to read for those of us that don't get to watch that many Rockets games. ------------------
Oh great, now you've lost your mind, too! ------------------ "what if my aunt had balls?" -- in one fell swoop, bbs member verse expresses his dislike of "what if" scenarios and shows he has far too much idle time on his hands.
Relentless as the Mobley ISO or Barkley butt-ball...dribble, dribble, dribble, dribble Ahhhh man. Yeah, you don't like this BBS game. Hey crash, I really did mean that you don't have to extend an olive branch. I'd rather read jabs back at me. I probably should have separated that thought out into a separate post. Your comments about everyone has a valid opinion is correct. I once bashed Presidents' foreign policy(... Nixon is an MORON), because I thought my opinions were equal to their's, until I realized they had better Intelligence than me... jab! damn, I mixed sincerity with a jab again....oops [This message has been edited by heypartner (edited February 05, 2001).]
I agree Rudy is not the sole reason for us losing but he is a big part. And what would constitute a good team this year? 45 wins, 50 wins, the playoffs? Let me know because I would like to have some measuring stick from your standards so I can use them against you at the end of this season. Personally, I never said Carlos was the ANSWER.(thats Allen Iverson) I said he provides a better solution in the rotation when guarding big men that can score. If Kenny is guarding a smaller forward or the other team is small then I dont see a problem. We also know that Kenny Thomas aint the ANSWER either so lets state that as well? AGREE? So then I guess that is the answer to my first question. If the Rockets finish above .500 then they are a good team, correct? ------------------ Rockets Season Ticket Holder [This message has been edited by cato13 (edited February 05, 2001).]
Oh look...Cato13 is defending Jeff. Man Jeff, if he did that to me, I'd get him in the air on a head-fake, and them slam him.
Can't see how I am defending him. I just want to call him on his quotes at season's end. Anyway I must go to the game for which I have season tickets. Not only do I support the Rockets here but in the pocketbook as well. I always put my money where my mouth is. Oh, and I never go for the head-fake. My coach told me better than that and I listened. I will be back tonight. GO Rockets!!! ------------------ Rockets Season Ticket Holder
Ummm HeyP, Hoop-T Do you still want to take that bet? Looks like Rudy came to his senses in the second half. Who came off the bench first? Was it Carlos or Kenny? Oops, my bad Kenny didn't even get off the bench in the 2nd half. Also did you notice in the first half the energy Carlos brings when he comes in? He had what 6 points (3/3) and 2 rebounds(both offensive mind you for which the rockets scored) in eight minutes. He even caused a turnover on Camby on the baseline. Now Kenny didnt do too bad either except for that one shot that he threw up wildly and for not blocking out on offensive rebound for New York. But it looks as though Rudy realized the matchup tonight. All in all the Rockets played a great game tonight and I couldnt be more happier for Hakeem. He played alot of minutes tonight even though he got into foul trouble early and was very productive. Steve and Cuttino was da bomb baby and even Mo and Shandon contributed. Not too bad for a BAD team. I still don't understand why Walt is still getting so much playing time though. ------------------ Rockets Season Ticket Holder
What team have you been watching for the past 3 seasons? As much as it many pain you to admit it, but THIS IS A BAD TEAM!! Most rebuilding teams are bad. Consider: 1. The Rockets have a SG playing SF eventhough they are a small team starving for more size. And he's not playing SF due to injury, but ineffectiveness. 2. They don't have 1 COMPETENT inside player or defender on the roster. Don't fool yourself, there isn't one interior player on the roster without a glaring weakness or weaknesses. True, no player is perfect. But when Kenny (nothing personal), at 6'7", is the best post defender on the team, you're in trouble. Some would argue that Los is, and yes he's a good shot-blocker and rebounder, but he can also be overpowered on defense and is a non-factor on offense. None have a solid, CONSISTENT post game, and of the 2 that have the potential to develop into a consitent low post player, Kenny is still developing and Collier just isn't ready. 3. The PG (not named Magic Johnson) is the team's leading rebounder, and routinely outrebounds the SF and PF COMBINED. Enough said. 4. You're an NBA GM and the Rockets call wanting to make a trade. You're informed that the untouchables are Steve, Cat, Mo, Shandon, and Mooch. Is there anyone else worth talking about or considering? 5. The NBA Championship will be decided in the WC Finals. The NBA Finals will just be a formality. I mean, Philly's good, but I wouldn't be surprised if they got knocked off in the first round. So don't be fooled about the Rockets' record against the East, because as Barkley says, "The Eastern Conference are the Army Reserves, the Army, Navy, Air Force, and Marines play out West". Now, it will be argued that if the Rockets are so bad, then why do they give the Lakers hell, why did they barely lose to the Spurs, why did they beat the Knicks. Glad you asked: 1. The Lakers, as it has become evident over the last week or so, are one-major-injury-to-Shaq from being as bad or worse that the Rockets. The two are very similar, and with the exception of the game earlier in the season, Kobe is rarely the difference in a Lakers' victory over the Rockets, Shaq is. 2. Rockets + experience + defensive intensity + slightly more overall talent = Knicks 3. The Rockets' are a very tough matchup, especially for power teams, due to their speed and the guard-oriented offense they run. Steve, Mobley, and Mooch are pretty good 1-on-1 players who handle the ball well, are cat-quick, and are very underrated as shooters spotting up off the pentration. The Lakers, Spurs, and Blazers are all bigger, but the Rockets are quicker with more athletic guards, which makes for some interesting matchups from both teams' perspective. (Rattling of my two cents falling into the piggy bank) ------------------ Who's better: Kelvin Cato or Joe Barry Caroll? Take your time!
Cato13, Don't argue with me about KT spreading the floor. He can get his points by starting out there. He consistently blows by defenders. And this missing layup thing is quickly getting out-dated--as you say, watch the game more closely. The main point is: Duncan must come out whenever KT plays the pnr or top of key (which he often does in that set). If Duncan does not come out, it is a technical foul! plan and simple. Rogers does not start on the perimeter nearly as much. He's not one to swing passing through. Carlos likes playing around the basket. He is not going to draw out Duncan playing his game. Quit throwing me stats to proove something that as no relevance on the court. Rogers does not position himself on the perimeter, and KT does. If Rogers could proove to Rudy he could play that position, I'm sure he would be in there. But as it is, Rogers cannot pull out PFs, because he doesn't do it, yet KT does. It is that simple. [This message has been edited by heypartner (edited February 05, 2001).]
well, i lost track of what was going on in this thread, but i did want to respond to... ChenZhen: hopefully it will suffice for any others that may have had a question for me. to answer you, if kt had found his touch, the move would have worked. unfortunately, he didn't. the question is at what point to you give the hook? yes, hindsight is 20/20. i won't argue. but, i would not be so quick to dismiss 'EVERYONE' as backseat coaches who question rudy's gametime decisions. some people try to detect patterns in a person's "game" or "coaching". and when the same mistakes crop up, they speak up. i can't speak for everyone, but, i'm not saying to GET RUD OF RIDDY or FIRE RUDY! not at all. just pointing out a decision rudy made that didn't work. IT WAS A MISTAKE. can we all agree on that?
Spurs 90 Rockets 88. Advantage Spurs. Disadvantage Rockets. ------------------ [This message has been edited by crash5179 (edited February 05, 2001).]
crash, Cato13, TheFreak and other backseat coaches I love the way people have it all figured out, and the coach is an idiot. You can see it anyway you want...I guess. What I see in crash and TheFreak and many many others, is the lack of ability to figure out all the advantages and disadvantages of various coaching decisions. They just pick what they like and claim no disadvantages. Unbelievably simple task that is to claim no disadvantages in your ideas; isn't it. So simple anyone can do it. dime a dozen backseat coaching....nothing more.
Nice comeback crash... Describe some Xs and Os from the Triangle or Sloan or Riley, and maybe you can raise my eyebrow. Describe San Antonio's fastbreak....describe San Antonio's twin tower defense. And maybe you would appreciate the 2 point margin with no shooting a little more. backseat coaching with nothing...nothing to offer. dime a dozen
Heyp, Sure he blows by the defenders all the time but what good is it when he cant finish. What I am looking at is that we need defense. We have too many people on the floor that can score. How many times have we exlusively gone to K.T.? Not much and when we do every now and then he will do something but for the most part he comes up short. Point blank, Carlos should be coming off the bench before K.T and in the near future I bet Rudy will see that as well. ------------------ Rockets Season Ticket Holder
