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YoY comparisons

Discussion in 'Houston Rockets: Game Action & Roster Moves' started by Curly, Dec 10, 2009.

  1. Curly

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    Maybe you want to see this, maybe you don't, but thought some of the Year over Year numbers were interesting and make since with the style of "team" ball we are playing this year. I only pulled the numbers for our minute eaters on the team this year.

    I added in Ariza and compared his numbers to his numbers with the Lakers in 2008.

    For Artest and Alston, I compared Ariza 2009 to Artest 2008, and Brooks 2009 to Alston 2008. (Obviously that aren't player for player, but it's the closest comparisons I figured would work).

    Budinger...well so far, I think he's just icing on the cake and put him in here becuase of his MPG.

    I'll let you make your own summations of the numbers, but at the least, it should make for some interesting discussion. Sorry for the (small)eye chart, this was the only way I knew how to get the spreadsheet on here. This is the format.
    Trevor Ariza - 2009/2008/Difference
    Aaron Brooks - 2009/2008/Difference
    Carl Landry - 2009/2008/Difference
    Luis Scola - 2009/2008/Difference
    Shane Battier - 2009/2008/Difference
    Chase Budinger - 2009
    Kyle Lowry - 2009/2008/Difference
    Chuck Hayes - 2009/2008/Difference
    Ron Artest/Ariza - Artest 2008/Ariza 2009 minus Artest 2008 = Difference
    Rafer Alston/Brooks - Alston 2008/Brooks 2009 minus Alston 2008 = Difference
    Green being an upward trend
    Red being a downward trend

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  2. Curly

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    These are the fields.

    MPG FG% 3p% FT% ORB DRB TRB APG SPG BPG TO PF PPG
     
  3. SleepingGiants

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    Pro tip: Hold ctrl+ mouse wheel up. BAM! fields and stats are legible.

    ctrl+mouse wheel down to re-size, obviously.
     
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  4. Curly

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    Thanks SleepingGiants.
     
  5. Hayesfan

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    good stuff... interesting that overall each and every player has "stepped up" and is in the green on ppg :) and they are all in the red in turnovers!

    Thanks for sharing.
     
  6. DaDakota

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    Great tip, I never knew that...AWESOMENESS !!

    You just earned some green.

    DD
     
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    Red in turnovers means more than they had last year. All players are worse on TPG.
     
  8. JeopardE

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    Don't mean to be Debbie Downer, but I really don't see much value in simply comparing box score statistics with really no extra insight -- no per minute averages, no efficiency numbers, no per possession numbers, no usage indicators.

    I'd be much more interested in seeing year-on-year comparisons of per minute scoring/rebounds/assists, usage, TS%, PER, +/- and Off/Def Rtg.
     
  9. Curly

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    Feel free, go for it. Minutes per game are on there from both seasons. I figured the 10000ft view would paint a nice YoY comparison, but would love to look at your breakdown.
     
  10. Hayesfan

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    yes, I just thought it was an interesting twist.. that even though each and every one of them are turning the ball over more.. they are still able to score more. :)
     
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    [​IMG]

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    All regular box score stats are per 36 minutes. Organized the stats by category so it's easy to assess absolute production versus efficiency in each area, and broke it into two sections to make it more BBS-friendly.

    Not surprising to see that the defensive rating of almost every player is down a notch, except for Lowry.

    The turnovers don't look so bad when viewed as a percentage of possessions, indicating that the higher turnovers are more a function of the team's significantly increased pace. The point guards' turnover rates are up, but that's to be expected since they are handling the ball much more often without McGrady and Artest in the picture.

    In light of the article a while back about the Rockets going "eraserless", it's also interesting to see that almost everyone is blocking more shots while on the floor.

    As far as overall efficiency goes, the only player with a noticeable drop is Ariza. Lowry & Scola are pretty much par for the course of their careers, while everyone else is up a notch.

    Except, of course, for the Brain Cooker, still sporting that negative 11 plus PER.
     
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  12. Curly

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    ...and prettier too! Nice job.
     
  13. durvasa

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    Great chart, JeopardE. Thanks.
     

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